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FRS and GMRS radios(Walkie Talkies) 3 Years ago  
If you have a radio that has the GMRS function you might want to check out getting a license from the FCC.(Uncle Charlie to old CBer's) I found this out after reading the manual for a set Midland FRS/GMRS radios the wife bought for me. I called the FCC to verify the requirement for a license. The lady told me that if the radio is GMRS capable, even if you don't transmit on the GMRS band, you could be arrested, fined $10,00.00 dollars and spend five years in prison. For the cost of a five year license($85.00) it is worth while to avoid all of that hassle and jail time. Just think you could buy another R* for the cost of the fine! So check out your radios, if has GMRS get your license! You can do the application on line and in 24 hours you could have your legal ticket to operate. The FCC is VERY ACTIVE in enforcing the laws. A CBer that was running a linear amplifier(250 watts) got busted and hauled off to jail. Haven't seen him since. If you want more information shoot me a PM.
 
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Re:FRS and GMRS radios(Walkie Talkies) 3 Years ago  
bump, this important to read.
 
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Re:FRS and GMRS radios(Walkie Talkies) 3 Years ago  
FCC funding has been as crimped as most agencies. If you do not abuse the airwaves, I very much doubt that anyone will ever get noticed, much less prosecuted for using these radios. Sure, if you crank out 250 watts on a band where you should be running 5 you have a chance of getting caught. But this guy was most likely complained about by his neighbors (I used to run 750 watts late at night on cb). The FCC doesn't just go out and look around for someone to bust.
 
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Re:FRS and GMRS radios(Walkie Talkies) 3 Years ago  
They get a number of complaints from neighbors whose TV they are messing up. They then go to that town and and sweep up.(On all frequencies) The fines go to their operating funds and is some what self funded. The GMRS is used by a lot of businesses and if their trade get cramped they complain. Also security companies use the GMRS for on site communications. If safety is an issue the FCC comes in on that. FRS is limited to 1/4 of a watt and as such would not cause much in the way problems and a license is not required. GMRS can run up to 25 watts and can cause problems, a license is required. The FCC has the right to perform a station inspection with out notice or require a warrant. But you are right that if you conduct yourself in the appropriate manner no one would be any wiser. This information was just put out to help keep our brothers out of trouble. Because I know a lot of people won't read the manual and get busted.
 
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Re:FRS and GMRS radios(Walkie Talkies) 3 Years ago  
ahamay wrote:
The GMRS is used by a lot of businesses and if their trade get cramped they complain. Also security companies use the GMRS for on site communications. If safety is an issue the FCC comes in on that. FRS is limited to 1/4 of a watt and as such would not cause much in the way problems and a license is not required. GMRS can run up to 25 watts and can cause problems, a license is required.

"FRS radios have a maximum power of watt (500 milliwatt) effective radiated power and integral (non-detachable) antennas. If you operate a radio under the rules that apply to GMRS, you must have a GMRS license. GMRS radios generally transmit at higher power levels (1 to 5 watts is typical) and may have detachable antennas." (http://wireless.fcc.gov)

If business are using GMRS radios for communication between the employees, they are in violation of FCC regulations. Every USER of the GMRS radios must have their own individual license.

" You are operating illegally if:

* You have an FCC call sign and GMRS license, but you permit someone outside your immediate family to operate it, such as an employee. There is one exception is to item "c" above. If you hold a valid GMRS license under a business name (a non-individual) that was issued before July 31, 1987, it is permissible for non-family members, such as employees, to operate under your existing GMRS license. Such use is grandfathered."
(popularwireless.com/gmrsbppfaq.html)

I again assert that using a GMRS radio while traveling on the road on your bike has almost no change of ever getting anyone's attention. The FCC isn't going to get any of my money to allow me to communicate on this part of the electromagnetic spectrum, that they seem to believe belongs to the Government. I'm not advocating starting a pirate radio station and interfering with established communication. I'm saying that I believe the Government is butting too deep into my business when they want to "Allow" me to talk with a friend, IF I pay them for a licence.

I'm so sick of fees, licenses, permits, fines, laws, etc. being used as a source of funding, rather than actually doing any good.
 
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Re:FRS and GMRS radios(Walkie Talkies) 3 Years ago  
Ditto on Firemans reply, I have the license because i bought some COBRA Marine Radios that required it, soon after I paid up and got the license, I got a letter from the FCC that said they would not have this type license available anymore. (As if you will not need to ever renew it.) I was required to have it because mine transmitted like 5 watts and had a lot more channels.

If the FCC wanted to enforce this crap, they could make millions per day at truck stops.
 
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