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#458367 Plumbwader (User) Romans 10:9 Senior Boarder Posts: 275 RuNning rich 1 Year, 3 Months ago   What r signs of running rich without reading the plugs?   Logged     05 midnight, AIS removed, Arlen Ness Big Sucker, V and H 2 into 1 propipe HS, 172.5 main, pms 2.5, 3rd groove 2 washers, 650 ASL   The administrator has disabled public write access. #458368 TheSheepdog (User) Famous last words Watch this S*&^ Gold Boarder Posts: 997 Re:RuNning rich 1 Year, 3 Months ago   Probably MPGs. I think anything below 35 is prolly running richer than you need to. And less than 40 is just wasting $$ Provided you are goosing the throttle all the time. That dumps mileage although sounds kickass with longshots. But I am a rookie carb guy. The real gurus will chime in shortly. SD   Logged     Last Edit: 2012/02/09 18:06 By TheSheepdog.   The Sheepdog It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. General Douglas MacArthur   The administrator has disabled public write access. #458398 Greysnake (User) I'm so far behind I think I'm first. Platinum Boarder Posts: 10211 Re:RuNning rich 1 Year, 3 Months ago   The old school way was to put your index finger inside the exhaust pipe and pull it out with the same pressure as pulling a coin across a table. If it's soot black -rich If it's light gray - lean Some where in-between is where you want it Oh and be sure the pipes have cooled off before you stick your finger in.   Logged     Last Edit: 2012/02/09 20:05 By Greysnake.   06 Midnight Silverado *nothing shines like a star*   The administrator has disabled public write access. #458405 rballew (User) Senior Boarder Posts: 362 Re:RuNning rich 1 Year, 3 Months ago   Greysnake wrote: The old school way was to put your index finger inside the exhaust pipe and pull it out with the same pressure as pulling a coin across a table. Oh and be sure the pipes have cooled off before you stick your finger in. if not, you'll be running to make the doctor rich.   Logged       The administrator has disabled public write access. #458421 Greysnake (User) I'm so far behind I think I'm first. Platinum Boarder Posts: 10211 Re:RuNning rich 1 Year, 3 Months ago   You didn't say whether your carb was stock or had been re-jetted.   Logged     06 Midnight Silverado *nothing shines like a star*   The administrator has disabled public write access. #458488 Plumbwader (User) Romans 10:9 Senior Boarder Posts: 275 Re:RuNning rich 1 Year, 3 Months ago   Greysnake wrote: You didn't say whether your carb was stock or had been re-jetted.BAK, v and h 2 into one, 172.5 main, clip on the fourth groove, 3 1/2 turns out   Logged     05 midnight, AIS removed, Arlen Ness Big Sucker, V and H 2 into 1 propipe HS, 172.5 main, pms 2.5, 3rd groove 2 washers, 650 ASL   The administrator has disabled public write access. #458547 TheSheepdog (User) Famous last words Watch this S*&^ Gold Boarder Posts: 997 Re:RuNning rich 1 Year, 3 Months ago   from everything I have read 3 1/2 is pretty far turned out. I think Curt has said at 4 it can vibrate out.   Logged     The Sheepdog It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. General Douglas MacArthur   The administrator has disabled public write access. #458586 Greysnake (User) I'm so far behind I think I'm first. Platinum Boarder Posts: 10211 Re:RuNning rich 1 Year, 3 Months ago   I started with the PMS at 3.5 out and adjusted it in from there. The 172.5 and clip on 4th from the blunt end with the white washer and a silver washer under the clip is what I run. I ended up with the PMS at 2.75 out. With the bike warmed up try adjusting the PMS in until the engine starts to idle ruff then slowly about 1/8th at a time back it out till it smooths out. Then adjust your idle to 900rpm. If that don't help then look at where your float level is.   Logged     06 Midnight Silverado *nothing shines like a star*   The administrator has disabled public write access. #458599 Curt (Moderator) Never to old to ride! Moderator Posts: 14617 Re:RuNning rich 1 Year, 3 Months ago   You are at 650 ft asl so the 172.5 should be good. If your pipes black inside raise the needle by moving the clip to 3 and put two silver washers under the white spacer. That will put you at 3 1/2 and turn the PMS in to 2 turns out. Crank it up and ride for about 15-20 minutes and then tweak the PMS until it reaches the highest idle possible then adjust your idle speed to around 900 rpm. When you tweak the PMS go in until it stumbles and then turn it back out until you get the highest idle. I am around the Dallas area and the elevation is about the same here and that is what I had for jetting when I had the OEM carb. I am running a HSR 45 now.   Logged     My Site Black Ice is Shiny, Black Ice is Deadly, Ya Wanna Ride My BlackIce?   The administrator has disabled public write access. #458639 Arkman (User) Fresh Boarder Posts: 58 Re:RuNning rich 1 Year, 3 Months ago   what do you do , if a F.I. bike appears to be running rich? I have some black soot in my pipes.   Logged     The administrator has disabled public write access.

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