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Re:Gas mileage blows 1 Year ago  
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Gone through almost 2 tanks of gas and only gone 250 miles on my 07'. Everything still intact (AIS, stock pipes, factory carb settings, etc). Getting real close to "making it my own" and the warranty be damned. Using Seafoam versus their "product".

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City I get about that still. 30 miles to the gallon. I do get about 38 highway.
 
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Re:Gas mileage blows 1 Year ago  
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Cody wrote:
Now when u guys say poppin. What exactly do u mean by that. Also if no poppin than that automatically rules out a possible air leakusually if u have an air leak at the manifold (which I have had)..will cause popping and sometimes backfires out of the exhaust when you release the throttle. It also wont run or idle well when it gets to bad.
Ive had an air leak at the manifold and later, I had one at the header / muffler connection...both popped at decel.


Not having had to deal with this myself yet....KOW
Ever so often when this comes up, I've read here where people have done the manifold fix....ie surfacing, and or porting, and have been surprised to see their mileage go up. I believe several have even commented that the bike seemed to be running fine, but they saw an increase in mileage, after doing the mod.........oddly enough, I think it was on gas mileage thread .

What prompted my comment yesterday, was something Erbman had repeated after hearing, regarding the large number of bikes that have manifold issues right out of the crate. I imagine that the dealers let most if not all of these go thru, because there really isn't a noticeable difference. After all, "it's a new bike", and "if it ain't broke don't fix it" is probably an unwritten law at a dealership.
A bad leak, will give the usual results...ie something similar to the AIS port being uncorked. I would think a smaller leak would be skipped over as just a carb needing tuned. How many members on here, are running their bikes richer then needed?
Most new bike owners aren't able to wipe the grin off their faces for about a thousand miles, and without a resource like RSC, may just think their bikes are gas hogs. GF simply traded one Roadie for a new older Roadie, and was expecting similar results....

Having said this, it may just be GF's new bike, combined with not enough data input for a good read on mileage. GF will have to determine the latter, the former should sort itself out.
Espressodude took his bike(not new) into a shop and had it Dynoed, and they didn't catch the vacuum leak, but they did stick a really big main jet in the bike that resolved the lean issue. That worked for awhile, until the popping started and the bike became to much of a pain to ride. He did a quick check with some carb cleaner or ether, and the bike died IIRC. Others have done the check, and hardly noticed the droop in the idle.

How many members here, would see an increase in their fuel mileage from simply removing the manifold, surfacing the flanges and replacing it?
I find it interesting that the Roadies seem to be all over the map as far as performance and jetting, but for those who persist, they all tend to end up in a smaller bracket where their jetting is concerned. How many Roadie owners are out there, who don't show up here, and just think their bikes are thirsty. How many put pipes on their bikes, and just think the popping reminds them of their hot rod days. Look at the numbers of ten year old bikes on here, that had less then 20k miles on them when our members purchased them used, and had been owned by 2 or 3 different people(mine was one of those). Many owners, simply never get to know the bike well enough to know if it has issues.
 
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Re:Gas mileage blows 1 Year ago  
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How many Roadie owners are out there, who don't show up here, and just think their bikes are thirsty.

Apparently Yamaha thinks that too. Straight from their own site: Fuel Economy: 36 mpg.

That's combined city/hwy for bikes right? Even HD lists the Softail at 42.

I refuse to believe that a bunch of Japanese engineers standing around in white lab coats and holding iPads think 36 combined mpg is acceptable for any bike, no matter how big the cc. So why did they settle there?

I'm one of those guys who have "left well enough alone." No jetting, no mods except exhaust, hell I haven't even tuned it up in 33k except for religious oil changes and spark plugs. I'll get to it someday when I'm feeling brave enough to tackle carbs.

After tearing the bike down for paint and it sitting too long this winter, here are my numbers this year:
1st tank: No reading
2nd tank: 33 mpg
3rd tank: 40 mpg (getting better)
4th tank: 44 mpg (with SeaFoam)

Can't wait for the 5th tank!
 
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Re:Gas mileage blows 1 Year ago  
Right off the bat RJ, although black bikes are considered to be faster, red ones stretch the fuel better.....it's a fact.

Regarding the 44mpg number. How much of that is a constant speed with duration(distance). The first time I checked mine it was about 36, but that was almost all stop and start, traffic, and almost no highway at all.
If I can get at least half the tank at highway speeds, it helps out a bunch.
Did Yammie give a city and highway number, or just an overall 36mph.
 
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Re:Gas mileage blows 1 Year ago  
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Right off the bat RJ, although black bikes are considered to be faster, red ones stretch the fuel better.....it's a fact.


Too funny!

As for the rest, I believe my numbers actually get brought down by my work commute. 62 miles a day, probably 56 of which is on a major freeway. The rest is at stoplights, idling away for minutes at a time, waiting for that friggin green arrow. Keeping up with traffic on I75 requires between 70-75mph in the morning, and 79-80mph in the afternoon. There's no way I'm letting 18 wheel gravel haulers pass me at 70. If I could slow it down to 60-65, like the speeds I see on fun weekend backroad riding, my numbers would go way up, just like they would in any vehicle.

I'm truly thinking that the fairing will help the mpg numbers, as compared to my tall (and very flat) MS windshield that pushed air like a brick. I have a cool mpg tracker on my phone that I plug all my numbers into, and last year I averaged 40 for the whole season. For the record, I'm not really complaining.

Yami's mpg numbers are combined city/highway, and I haven't found any cycle site that separates them, but I haven't looked very hard. Kawasaki's Nomad also says 36, which surprises me.


EDIT: Those speeds above are "indicated." Next up is a GPS test to see how far off my speedo is, because there's just no way all these soccer moms and heavy trucks are blasting down the road at 80. Or maybe there is.
 
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Re:Gas mileage blows 1 Year ago  
Well, I feel better. I thought you were driving ten miles across town to work. All the highway in your commute explains the bigger number

...and yes, they probably are going 80. At 70 down here, the only people I pass, are trucks, and those tourist who think their car is broken.
 
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Re:Gas mileage blows 1 Year ago  
Mileage getting better. Got on some open roads and did steady speeds with an occasional extra throttle twists. Shoulda remembered these bikes don't like to be babied. Got 110 miles so far with a little less than 1/2 tank to go. On track to great MPG.

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Re:Gas mileage blows 1 Year ago  
Cool... Much better.
 
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Re:Gas mileage blows 1 Year ago  
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Mileage getting better. Got on some open roads and did steady speeds with an occasional extra throttle twists. Shoulda remembered these bikes don't like to be babied. Got 110 miles so far with a little less than 1/2 tank to go. On track to great MPG.

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My last check, was 37.8. That's with about 25% highway/75% town spread over a total of 560 miles. It sounds like you won't be far off that.
 
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Re:Gas mileage blows 1 Year ago  
After rejet and tune up, went for a ride with wife yesterday,got 40.8 2up combined town and hiway miles. I'm too heavy handed to get much better.
 
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