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#508274 Ricohoc (User) I am a man of peace, but I adore a riot! Platinum Boarder Posts: 3519 Carburetor for R* that will take Ethanol? 10 Months, 4 Weeks ago   There have been rumors for the last several years about removing 91 octane regular fuel for sale in Thailand and forcing everyone to go to ethanol. The rumors have begun again with the idea that it will take effect in Oct/Nov this year. If so, my carb is going to be in big trouble. Is there a carburetor for the R* that will take ethanol?   Logged       The administrator has disabled public write access. #508284 coalstoves (User) Are YOU Sure Expert Boarder Posts: 559 Re:Carburetor for R* that will take Ethanol? 10 Months, 4 Weeks ago   I think your reporting the story wrong or the rumor itself is so absurd that no one would believe it. No current or past vehicle will run on strict ethanol without major modification and I don’t see a country scrapping its peoples transportation systems. Especially when that country has tried to boost ethanol production by encouraging private firms to set up plants to supply the domestic market and to fill growing demand in other countries. Thai media reported that one of China's big chemical and pulp manufacturers, Shandong Jinyimen Chemical Group, had proposed spending 500 million baht ($11.4 million) to build an ethanol plant in Thailand for export to China.   Logged     My Bikes Page SEAT LINK 1999 XV1600AL - ROAD STAR Never Time To Do It Right But Always Time To Do It Twice   The administrator has disabled public write access. #508286 Ricohoc (User) I am a man of peace, but I adore a riot! Platinum Boarder Posts: 3519 Re:Carburetor for R* that will take Ethanol? 10 Months, 4 Weeks ago   coalstoves wrote: I think your reporting the story wrong or the rumor itself is so absurd that no one would believe it. No current or past vehicle will run on strict ethanol without major modification and I don’t see a country scrapping its peoples transportation systems. I wasn't quoting or reporting any story. Key word: "rumor", and it's not strict ethanol. It's been floated out there every now and then over the past seven years that I've been here. Most Shell Oil stations here already only sell the 91 octane gasoline with the ethanol additive. Can't get 91 regular there at all, so it's not my imagination. I have often said that the hardship upon the Thai people would be astronomical for them to modify their vehicles if something like this was done even with an ethanol additive. I have used the 91 ethanol additive in my R* before, and I had both starting and running issues. Just trying to be prepared in the eventuality of the unexpected. Do you know of any carburetors that could survive the ethanol additive and be used on the R*?   Logged     Last Edit: 2012/06/25 03:29 By Ricohoc.     The administrator has disabled public write access. #508288 artybuck (User) Live to Ride, Ride to Live Junior Boarder Posts: 122 Re:Carburetor for R* that will take Ethanol? 10 Months, 4 Weeks ago   Hi - just brain storming here, no real facts - i believe 91 ron with 10% ethanol makes it 94ron. ie it burns hotter(?) would we need colder plugs? should we run lean? any ideas?   Logged       The administrator has disabled public write access. #508289 coalstoves (User) Are YOU Sure Expert Boarder Posts: 559 Re:Carburetor for R* that will take Ethanol? 10 Months, 4 Weeks ago   What percentage ? Here in the USA 10% is the rule of thumb almost everywhere and the carb seems to handle it just fine and Yamaha has printed that 10% is OK .   Logged     My Bikes Page SEAT LINK 1999 XV1600AL - ROAD STAR Never Time To Do It Right But Always Time To Do It Twice   The administrator has disabled public write access. #508292 Ricohoc (User) I am a man of peace, but I adore a riot! Platinum Boarder Posts: 3519 Re:Carburetor for R* that will take Ethanol? 10 Months, 4 Weeks ago   artybuck wrote: Hi - just brain storming here, no real facts - i believe 91 ron with 10% ethanol makes it 94ron. ie it burns hotter(?) would we need colder plugs? should we run lean? any ideas? I've got no idea, arty. All I know is that the Honda owners over here are going after US kits with ethanol-resistant material called Viton to replace their plastic/rubber carburetor parts and seals due to the gasohol with ethanol. I'm just trying to stay ahead of the game in the event that it happens.   Logged       The administrator has disabled public write access. #508295 artybuck (User) Live to Ride, Ride to Live Junior Boarder Posts: 122 Re:Carburetor for R* that will take Ethanol? 10 Months, 4 Weeks ago   we've had 10% for a while, i used it a few years back and the bike ran rough after a couple of tanks. i avoid it where I can now but it's probably inevitable that it will become universal so we'll be in the same boat. i'll ask my mechanic mate and post his thoughts when i can.   Logged       The administrator has disabled public write access. #508298 Just Dave (User) Expert Boarder Posts: 439 Re:Carburetor for R* that will take Ethanol? 10 Months, 4 Weeks ago   All the fuel here has been 10% for a few years now and it runs fine in cars and bikes. It is the small engines and older boats that have so much trouble. I abandoned Stabill in favor of Star Tron http://mystarbrite.com/startron/ a few years back and it took care of the few issues I was experiencing. Sucks to have to buy something else to put in fuel but you gotta do what you gotta do sometimes.   Logged     A Happy Traveler has no Particular Destination   The administrator has disabled public write access. #508299 artybuck (User) Live to Ride, Ride to Live Junior Boarder Posts: 122 Re:Carburetor for R* that will take Ethanol? 10 Months, 4 Weeks ago   is this like the additive used in LPG motors? or lead replacement?   Logged       The administrator has disabled public write access. #508300 Just Dave (User) Expert Boarder Posts: 439 Re:Carburetor for R* that will take Ethanol? 10 Months, 4 Weeks ago   NO, not a lead replacement. The biggest thing it does is Ethanol will bond with water and Startron breaks that bond so that water won't accumulate and gets burned. There is a lot of good reading on that link. Check it out. Good stuff. I had a weedeater that sat for almost two years with the same fuel in it in storage and I tried it just for the hell of it and it cranked on the fourth pull. I could not believe it.   Logged     A Happy Traveler has no Particular Destination   The administrator has disabled public write access.

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