Road Star Clinic Forum
Welcome, Guest
Please Login or Register.    Lost Password?
Re:Slip on Mufflers/AIS removal/PMS adjustment (1 viewing) (1) Guest
Go to bottom Post Reply Favoured: 0
TOPIC: Re:Slip on Mufflers/AIS removal/PMS adjustment
#120880
Jason19 (User)
Yes, I am a Pirate, 200 years too late
Junior Boarder
Posts: 177
graphgraph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
Gender: Male DFW Bikenights yoda5276 Location: DFW, Texas Birthdate: 1974-09-19
Re:Slip on Mufflers/AIS removal/PMS adjustment 2 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Take your pipes off, and reinstall them. and this time, wiggle them on the juggs to make them perfectly flat and hand tighten them...making sure the gaps are the same all the way around.

I had sworn by the 3rd time that I had them perfect...and I couldn't hear or feal any leak...but then I did things from the juggs back, making sure they are seated flush and VOILA! no backfire on clutch or hard decel.

I know they say to leave it all loose then tighten once the are all mounted, but get them aligned on the jug first, and hand tight.
 
Logged Logged  
 
-Jason
2007 Road Star Silver
Hypercharger Pro-R
LA Choppers CurveDD with cut baffles
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#124457
MidStar07 (User)
Junior Boarder
Posts: 124
graphgraph
User Online Now Click here to see the profile of this user
Re:Slip on Mufflers/AIS removal/PMS adjustment 2 Months ago  
Kevin -

Did you get this all worked out? I'm sorry I wasn't able to help but I'm a week behind you on all this!

I disabled my AIS yesterday and it works awesome, but I did more than just pinching that line. I also used wire nuts to block the big lines headed to the jugs. (I bet you have a good selection, ha) At first I was going to cap the metal tubes and plug the hoses, but then I realized I could just slide the wire nuts down into the hoses enough to be able to put the hoses back onto the metal tubes and.....voila!....two birds with one stone.

Looks stock, too, which is what I'm guessing you're going for.

When I only did that vacuum line the bike was still popping. When I finished with blocking those tubes it worked perfect.

MS07
 
Logged Logged  
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#125570
Kcschlz2002 (User)
Hey look it's a chicken!!!!
Junior Boarder
Posts: 167
graphgraph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
Re:Slip on Mufflers/AIS removal/PMS adjustment 2 Months ago  
UPDATE:
  • I have adjusted the PMS multiple times, and about 2 1/4 -2 3/4 is the least popping...But it is still there. I have installed the AIS removal kit. But the popping remains. I took the exhaust off again and ensured that the headers were flush to the head. But the popping remains... When I had the tank off removing the AIS I noted that the throttle "linkage" was a little bit slack and when I quickly release the throttle the "inboard"(sorry lack of a better word) "linkage" didn't snap as quickly and looks a little bit more slack than the other one...I am just wondering that this would cause popping on decel and during shifting, I only get the popping when the throttle is fully closed and don't get it if i leave the throttle open just a crack on decel...I am wondering if there is a way to tighten the linkage without major open heart surgery on the carb again...
  • Thanks for the help guys...
  • Kevin
     
    Logged Logged  
     

    2007 Midnight Star
    Straight out of the box
    She is not the same anymore, almost done, for now...BACKORDERED PARTS
      The administrator has disabled public write access.
    #125954
    Kcschlz2002 (User)
    Hey look it's a chicken!!!!
    Junior Boarder
    Posts: 167
    graphgraph
    User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
    Re:Slip on Mufflers/AIS removal/PMS adjustment 2 Months ago  
    Bump...Any Ideas guys?
  • Kevin
     
    Logged Logged  
     

    2007 Midnight Star
    Straight out of the box
    She is not the same anymore, almost done, for now...BACKORDERED PARTS
      The administrator has disabled public write access.
    #125974
    SobaCracka (User)
    It's best to eat crow while fresh.
    Platinum Boarder
    Posts: 1548
    graphgraph
    User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
    Gender: Male Location: Catonsville, MD Birthdate: 1959-04-04
    Re:Slip on Mufflers/AIS removal/PMS adjustment 2 Months ago  
    Wish I could help you out, Kevin. I have not even begun to play with the carb yet. I would hope that one of the wrench gods might jump in.
     
    Logged Logged  
     
    Earl in Catonsville, MD



      The administrator has disabled public write access.
    #126132
    Kcschlz2002 (User)
    Hey look it's a chicken!!!!
    Junior Boarder
    Posts: 167
    graphgraph
    User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
    Re:Slip on Mufflers/AIS removal/PMS adjustment 2 Months ago  
    Sobacracka, that is really what I am hoping for...even a simple no so that I might look for other probs.
  • Kevin
     
    Logged Logged  
     

    2007 Midnight Star
    Straight out of the box
    She is not the same anymore, almost done, for now...BACKORDERED PARTS
      The administrator has disabled public write access.
    #128214
    Kcschlz2002 (User)
    Hey look it's a chicken!!!!
    Junior Boarder
    Posts: 167
    graphgraph
    User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
    Re:Slip on Mufflers/AIS removal/PMS adjustment 1 Month, 3 Weeks ago  
    -update-
  • I continue to have much backfire etc. with the idle at "a good lope" but if I turn it up a bit, about where the rpms are when I have the choke on with the idle were I like it, the popping and backfiring all but goes away, any Ideas, I am thinking of getting some new gaskets, since I used the old ones from the stock pipes: less than 1000 miles on them... and I am going to try to get this thing licked before I have to leave the area... thanks again guys.
  • Kevin
     
    Logged Logged  
     

    2007 Midnight Star
    Straight out of the box
    She is not the same anymore, almost done, for now...BACKORDERED PARTS
      The administrator has disabled public write access.
    #128239
    MidStar07 (User)
    Junior Boarder
    Posts: 124
    graphgraph
    User Online Now Click here to see the profile of this user
    Re:Slip on Mufflers/AIS removal/PMS adjustment 1 Month, 3 Weeks ago  
    Hey Kevin -

    I'm still getting a little backfiring myself, but it's within tolerable limits right now.

    Is there any bluing on the pipes anywhere? I got a little at the joint on the upper pipe But I found the clamp had vibrated loose. Tightening it didn't change the small amount of backfire.

    I have not yet changed the PMS, only the AIS disable.

    I think the idle speed info you've generated says the linkage is not the problem. I know I reach down and adjust my idle every now and then depending on temp. As the bike warms it needs to be lowered.

    Anyway, it's late and I'm not much help, I know. I'm not a big down shifter, really....not my riding style. So my bike is probably about like yours but I just don't notice it as much. When I get to my PMS I'll report back. How many different settings have yuou tried on that?
     
    Logged Logged  
      The administrator has disabled public write access.
    #128311
    DocShadow (Admin)
    Hmmmm .... send beer
    Admin
    Posts: 10803
    graphgraph
    User Online Now Click here to see the profile of this user
    Gender: Male DocShadow's RoadStar Site Location: Ottawa, Ontario
    Re:Slip on Mufflers/AIS removal/PMS adjustment 1 Month, 3 Weeks ago  
    Kcschlz2002 wrote:
    UPDATE:I have adjusted the PMS multiple times, and about 2 1/4 -2 3/4 is the least popping...But it is still there. I have installed the AIS removal kit. But the popping remains. I took the exhaust off again and ensured that the headers were flush to the head. But the popping remains...

    Exhaust .. check
    AIS .... check
    PMS .... check

    Sounds like you may have the PMS covered but 'd go over the other to with a fine tooth comb. Try using incense to find an exhaust leak.


    I noted that the throttle "linkage" was a little bit slack and when I quickly release the throttle the "inboard"(sorry lack of a better word) "linkage" didn't snap as quickly and looks a little bit more slack than the other one...I am just wondering that this would cause popping on decel and during shifting, I only get the popping when the throttle is fully closed and don't get it if i leave the throttle open just a crack on decel...I am wondering if there is a way to tighten the linkage without major open heart surgery on the carb again...

    There is normally a little slack at the carb ... it so that you don't activate the carb every time you move you hand at bit. What's normal ... bring it over and I'll show you. .. Generally abut 1/4 but adjust it for you riding style.. If it's too tight you'll know right away.

    Doc
     
    Logged Logged  
     
      The administrator has disabled public write access.
    #128890
    Kcschlz2002 (User)
    Hey look it's a chicken!!!!
    Junior Boarder
    Posts: 167
    graphgraph
    User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
    Re:Slip on Mufflers/AIS removal/PMS adjustment 1 Month, 3 Weeks ago  
    thanks doc...I have used incense on the exhaust... couldn't see anything... the AIS removal kit with the blank flanges...I am going to look for fouled spark plugs next...
  • Kevin
     
    Logged Logged  
     

    2007 Midnight Star
    Straight out of the box
    She is not the same anymore, almost done, for now...BACKORDERED PARTS
      The administrator has disabled public write access.
    Go to top Post Reply
    Powered by FireBoardget the latest posts directly to your desktop
    ...................................................................... ...................................................................... ...................................................................... ...................................................................... ...................................................................... ...................................................................... ...................................................................... ...................................................................... ...................................................................... -->
    New Forum Posts
    26 posts, last by:
    BAJACRUISER
    8 posts, last by:
    Road_Hawg
    4 posts, last by:
    GJCARVING
    19 posts, last by:
    GJCARVING
    120 posts, last by:
    Mark7
    8 posts, last by:
    Big Bear
    29 posts, last by:
    Road_Hawg
    13 posts, last by:
    RoadstarB
    12 posts, last by:
    Darn Oldie
    8 posts, last by:
    Big Bear
    37 posts, last by:
    Greysnake
    10 posts, last by:
    stinger
    10 posts, last by:
    Frank_W
    38 posts, last by:
    Darn Oldie
    3 posts, last by:
    Curt
    36 posts, last by:
    bushrjackson
    10 posts, last by:
    bushrjackson
    17 posts, last by:
    Questcap
    10 posts, last by:
    Riobeard
    9 posts, last by:
    Frank_W
    20 posts, last by:
    ratl
    14 posts, last by:
    Mark7
    12 posts, last by:
    MS1700
    40 posts, last by:
    RaiderRidnOkie
    15 posts, last by:
    MitchellNJ
    25 posts, last by:
    Frank_W
    16 posts, last by:
    MS1700
    30 posts, last by:
    Frank_W
    17 posts, last by:
    Lakecharles


    The Road Star Clinic is a collaborative community of riders who archive and publish user contributed technical data about Yamaha Road Star motorcycles.

    We also sponsor the creation and support of other community websites similar to our own. Inquiries about availability of a website for your community can be submitted to us via any "Contact Us" option on the Clinic.

    Copyright 2003-2007 Road Star Clinic and its respective authors. Road Star Clinic is sponsored by the folks at MLSHomeQuest.com.