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Engine knocking-did I find problem? 2 Years, 7 Months ago  
I made a previous post concerning a knocking or tapping with the following symptoms:

1. Hearing tapping sound occasionally at start up and a tapping during clutch in while shifting to second gear.

2. At speeds of around 60 to 75 mph as I slightly decreased throttle I could induce a very audible clacking sound but only during a narrow bandwidth of throttle decrease.

I thought that the above was piston slap or rod bearing!

Well, every think in the engine measures with-in the Yamaha new tolerances with the exception of one bearing:

The generator shaft and case bearing measures approximately 3 thousands difference. I have looked in the manual but cant find what the measurement and tolerance is suppose to be but the generator case bearing shows a copper color and I would expect this bearing to be like all the others and have a dull colored babbit coating!?

I would not think that this 3 thousands difference in this bearing with not much load could cause this issue I am experiencing.

What a bummer if I have to replace a thousand dollar engine case because of one small bearing!

What do you think?

Rich
 
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Re:Engine knocking-did I find problem? 2 Years, 7 Months ago  
Mine clacks too. It's the nature of the beast.
 
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Re:Engine knocking-did I find problem? 2 Years, 7 Months ago  
what kind of oil you running change to a V-Twin syn 20-50 You will fine it will quite it down a lot
 
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Re:Engine knocking-did I find problem? 2 Years, 7 Months ago  
I think that's the area Yamaha describes as causing the knock at low engine speed start.

Used to be bearings could be re-babbited. You might check around. Might be difficult getting the bearing out without damage though.

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Re:Engine knocking-did I find problem? 2 Years, 7 Months ago  
Just get ya some loud pipes you'll never hear a thing.
 
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Re:Engine knocking-did I find problem? 2 Years, 7 Months ago  
A BAK helps too. they are fairly noisey or at least the K&N is.
 
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Re:Engine knocking-did I find problem? 2 Years, 7 Months ago  
im with Curt...my pipes blot out the engine noises..i worried at first but after hanging on this site for a while i realized the noises are normal...its a big engine under us thats cranking..
 
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Re:Engine knocking-did I find problem? 2 Years, 7 Months ago  
Ok, I am not pannict any more. After removing the stator shaft and noticing the bearing was copper collored I went into shock thinking I had to buy a new case for a thousand all because of one bearing!

I have looked all through the yamaha and hanes manual and can not find any reference to what the deminsions are for the stator shaft and bearing. I measure a difference of .003 and could not imagine that this was enough to cause the issue.

I noticed that in the hanes manual in two different location they refer to bearing in question as a bushing! Maybe this explains why there is not any babbit and the surface of the bushing looks perfect and is not out of round.

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Re:Engine knocking-did I find problem? 2 Years, 7 Months ago  
I had the same problem....Get Loud Pipes!!
 
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Re:Engine knocking-did I find problem? 2 Years, 7 Months ago  
Yamaha posted information about this and in short, they say that becuase the big bore of the Road Star 1600/1700 and it not being water cooled which would muffler the sound, it is a normal sound.

We it stops clacking, then you have problems.

Mark
 
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