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Re:Fire Damaged Bike 5 Months, 1 Week ago  
That sounds like the bike. Weird how the risers melted huh? What exactly was it at your shop for?

carb replacement........

even us mods have a sense of humor......
 
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Re:Fire Damaged Bike 5 Months, 1 Week ago  
Flashback wrote:
That sounds like the bike. Weird how the risers melted huh? What exactly was it at your shop for?

carb replacement........

even us mods have a sense of humor......


Damn I hope not! Thats bad for biznass!!!!
 
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Re:Fire Damaged Bike 5 Months, 1 Week ago  
It was trailered in just after the fire. The guy was a little singed, but was overall ok. He was not a local, and he thought Yamaha was going to fix his bike, but it was out of warranty, and he didn't have insurance. It sat there for almost a year, so he brought the title a couple weeks ago, and told us to get rid of it for him.

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Re:Fire Damaged Bike 5 Months, 1 Week ago  
word to the wise.

with ANY fire damaged vehicle, be very careful of any viton `o´ rings that may have been exposed to extrenme heat. they are VERY harmful..

`At high temperatures or in a fire, fluoroelastomers decompose, and may release hydrogen fluoride. Any residue must be handled using protective equipment´

depending on how the fire was put out, you can get the formation of hydrofouric acid on viton o-rings. had a warning in NOTAMS about it several years back.

HF acid...

Hydrofluoric acid is a highly corrosive liquid and is a contact poison. It should be handled with extreme care, beyond that accorded to other mineral acids. Owing to its low dissociation constant, HF as a neutral lipid-soluble molecule penetrates tissue more rapidly than typical mineral acids. Because of the ability of hydrofluoric acid to penetrate tissue, poisoning can occur readily through exposure of skin or eyes, or when inhaled or swallowed. Symptoms of exposure to hydrofluoric acid may not be immediately evident. HF interferes with nerve function, meaning that burns may not initially be painful. Accidental exposures can go unnoticed, delaying treatment and increasing the extent and seriousness of the injury.[8]

Once absorbed into blood through the skin, it reacts with blood calcium and may cause cardiac arrest. Burns with areas larger than 25 square inches (160 cm2) have the potential to cause serious systemic toxicity from interference with blood and tissue calcium levels.[9] In the body, hydrofluoric acid reacts with the ubiquitous biologically important ions Ca2+ and Mg2+. Formation of insoluble calcium fluoride is proposed as the etiology for both precipitous fall in serum calcium and the severe pain associated with tissue toxicity.[10] In some cases, exposures can lead to hypocalcemia. Thus, hydrofluoric acid exposure is often treated with calcium gluconate, a source of Ca2+ that sequesters the fluoride ions. HF chemical burns can be treated with a water wash and 2.5% calcium gluconate gel.[11][12][13] or special rinsing solutions.[14][15] However, because it is absorbed, medical treatment is necessary;[9] rinsing off is not enough. Intra-arterial infusions of calcium chloride have also shown great effectiveness in treating burns.[16]

Hydrogen fluoride is generated upon combustion of many fluorine-containing compounds such as products containing Viton and polytetrafluoroethylene (Teflon) parts
 
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Re:Fire Damaged Bike 5 Months, 1 Week ago  
erizo wrote:
word to the wise.

with ANY fire damaged vehicle, be very careful of any viton `o´ rings that may have been exposed to extrenme heat. they are VERY harmful..

`At high temperatures or in a fire, fluoroelastomers decompose, and may release hydrogen fluoride. Any residue must be handled using protective equipment´

depending on how the fire was put out, you can get the formation of hydrofouric acid on viton o-rings. had a warning in NOTAMS about it several years back.

HF acid...

Hydrofluoric acid is a highly corrosive liquid and is a contact poison. It should be handled with extreme care, beyond that accorded to other mineral acids. Owing to its low dissociation constant, HF as a neutral lipid-soluble molecule penetrates tissue more rapidly than typical mineral acids. Because of the ability of hydrofluoric acid to penetrate tissue, poisoning can occur readily through exposure of skin or eyes, or when inhaled or swallowed. Symptoms of exposure to hydrofluoric acid may not be immediately evident. HF interferes with nerve function, meaning that burns may not initially be painful. Accidental exposures can go unnoticed, delaying treatment and increasing the extent and seriousness of the injury.[8]

Once absorbed into blood through the skin, it reacts with blood calcium and may cause cardiac arrest. Burns with areas larger than 25 square inches (160 cm2) have the potential to cause serious systemic toxicity from interference with blood and tissue calcium levels.[9] In the body, hydrofluoric acid reacts with the ubiquitous biologically important ions Ca2+ and Mg2+. Formation of insoluble calcium fluoride is proposed as the etiology for both precipitous fall in serum calcium and the severe pain associated with tissue toxicity.[10] In some cases, exposures can lead to hypocalcemia. Thus, hydrofluoric acid exposure is often treated with calcium gluconate, a source of Ca2+ that sequesters the fluoride ions. HF chemical burns can be treated with a water wash and 2.5% calcium gluconate gel.[11][12][13] or special rinsing solutions.[14][15] However, because it is absorbed, medical treatment is necessary;[9] rinsing off is not enough. Intra-arterial infusions of calcium chloride have also shown great effectiveness in treating burns.[16]

Hydrogen fluoride is generated upon combustion of many fluorine-containing compounds such as products containing Viton and polytetrafluoroethylene (Teflon) parts


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Re:Fire Damaged Bike 5 Months, 1 Week ago  
I saw a video a while back about a guy who cleaned his metal with brake cleaner before he started welding on it. A small drop of the brake cleaner had not dried when he started welding and a minute puff of smoke went under his hood and he dang near died from it!! The intense heat on the brake fluid formed Hydroflouric acid and just a small whiff of it did everything short of killing that poor guy!!
 
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Re:Fire Damaged Bike 5 Months, 1 Week ago  
The bike brought $550 so I passed on it. I did however pick up a nice 2002 black RS beauty. It needs tires and a good detail so it isn't a project, but will cure my RS itch nonetheless!
 
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Re:Fire Damaged Bike 5 Months, 1 Week ago  
There you go! Good for ya... how many miles, and what was the price? Did ya get a deal?
 
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Re:Fire Damaged Bike 5 Months, 1 Week ago  
Man I really wanted a pic.
 
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Re:Fire Damaged Bike 5 Months, 1 Week ago  
I pick it up on Monday - I always do this auction online and then go and pick up my bikes on Monday. It is a 2002 w/ 15000 miles. I feel stupid though I thought it was black and it is actually dark blue (which is fine, but I can't believe I missed the color). I ended up paying $3300 which I don't think is bad for a clean specimen that just needs tires. It has V&H longshots, saddlebags, sissy bar, windshield, highway bars, and a luggage rack. I can't wait!!!!!
 
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