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#494408 paulfuller (User) Fresh Boarder Posts: 78 how to ID braons and DJ needles?? 12 Months ago   so how do you tell the difference between a barons and DJ needle?   Logged       The administrator has disabled public write access. #494429 davej (User) Platinum Boarder Posts: 5918 Re:how to ID braons and DJ needles?? 12 Months ago   When you buy them new it says on the package Seriously there are no markings on them but there is a good chance that if you have dynojet needle it will also have there main jet.(but there is no guarantee). Barons should have mikuni jets and there are other needles that look the same with different dia and taper that also use Mikuni jets.   Logged     Last Edit: 2012/05/23 05:44 By davej.   dave   The administrator has disabled public write access. #494435 Erbman02 (User) Platinum Boarder Posts: 5244 Re:how to ID braons and DJ needles?? 12 Months ago   info that was given to me yrs ago about the 2 needles are the tapers are just about the same, but the length is different, the DJ is shorter by the thickness of 1 washer. So if putting the e-clip on the same groove and the standard set-up (spacer, 1 washer)the DJ will be a half-step richer than the Barons.   Logged       The administrator has disabled public write access. #494436 davej (User) Platinum Boarder Posts: 5918 Re:how to ID braons and DJ needles?? 12 Months ago   Erbman02 wrote: info that was given to me yrs ago about the 2 needles are the tapers are just about the same, but the length is different, the DJ is shorter by the thickness of 1 washer. So if putting the e-clip on the same groove and the standard set-up (spacer, 1 washer)the DJ will be a half-step richer than the Barons. But you would have to have both of them setting side by side to see the difference. Any way you know of if you only have 1 of the needles and just want to know ?   Logged     dave   The administrator has disabled public write access. #494456 Erbman02 (User) Platinum Boarder Posts: 5244 Re:how to ID braons and DJ needles?? 12 Months ago   davej wrote: Erbman02 wrote: info that was given to me yrs ago about the 2 needles are the tapers are just about the same, but the length is different, the DJ is shorter by the thickness of 1 washer. So if putting the e-clip on the same groove and the standard set-up (spacer, 1 washer)the DJ will be a half-step richer than the Barons. But you would have to have both of them setting side by side to see the difference. Any way you know of if you only have 1 of the needles and just want to know ? Unfortunately he never passed along the measurement info to me nor to anyone else that I know of. But he knew the insides and out of the Roadie. At one time he was a Yamaha tech, he also helped quite a few riders at his home with repairs and never charged a dime. As a tech, he said he found 4 out of 5 roadies had leaks at the manifold to head joint right out of the crate. At the house he avg'd working on approx 50 to 100 roadies a yr. He tried all the manifolds out there, used 7 different air kits as well. He tested Ben Herrs manifold before it was brought to market too. He also informed me that the Nemesis coils were nothing more than The 1.5 ohm Dyna coils in a Nemesis packaging.   Logged       The administrator has disabled public write access. #494478 Rev. (User) Gold Boarder Posts: 935 Re:how to ID braons and DJ needles?? 12 Months ago   Erbman02 wrote: Unfortunately he never passed along the measurement info to me nor to anyone else that I know of. But he knew the insides and out of the Roadie. At one time he was a Yamaha tech, he also helped quite a few riders at his home with repairs and never charged a dime. As a tech, he said he found 4 out of 5 roadies had leaks at the manifold to head joint right out of the crate. At the house he avg'd working on approx 50 to 100 roadies a yr. He tried all the manifolds out there, used 7 different air kits as well. He tested Ben Herrs manifold before it was brought to market too. He also informed me that the Nemesis coils were nothing more than The 1.5 ohm Dyna coils in a Nemesis packaging.[/quote] Interesting bit of info there Neil   Logged     http://www.patriotguard.org/ http://myroadstar.webs.com/   The administrator has disabled public write access. #494483 Gram (Admin) Been there, wrecked that. Admin Posts: 4527 Re:how to ID braons and DJ needles?? 12 Months ago   Not sure how useful this will be, but when I was porting manifolds the DJ had six grooves in it. The barons had 5. Someone recently told me that the DJ's might be 5 now.   Logged       The administrator has disabled public write access. #494539 Erbman02 (User) Platinum Boarder Posts: 5244 Re:how to ID braons and DJ needles?? 12 Months ago   older DJ needle had 5 and was a fatter taper. At least this is the info I recall..   Logged       The administrator has disabled public write access. #494700 davej (User) Platinum Boarder Posts: 5918 Re:how to ID braons and DJ needles?? 11 Months, 4 Weeks ago   Gram wrote: Not sure how useful this will be, but when I was porting manifolds the DJ had six grooves in it. The barons had 5. Someone recently told me that the DJ's might be 5 now. The Speedstar needle also has 6 grooves so I guess if you are not sure of what needle you have go thru the procedures in the tech articles to set your jetting or buy a new kit and follow the directions. IMO no matter what kit is in there throw away the dyna jets and use the mikuni jets regardless of the needle brand they are easier to find and will not be confused when asking for jetting advice here.   Logged     Last Edit: 2012/05/23 21:38 By davej.   dave   The administrator has disabled public write access.

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