Road Star Forum
Welcome, Guest
Please Login or Register.    Lost Password?
Go to bottom Post Reply Favoured: 0
TOPIC: Re:Best way to improve brakes
#501891
erizo (User)
Platinum Boarder
Posts: 1865
graphgraph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
Re:Best way to improve brakes 11 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
if you change to the later calipers, you do NOT have to change the rotors

been running the 4 pot calipers with non floating discs on my `01 for the last 7 years with no adverse effects whatsoever.

remember, opposed piston calipers were working fine before floating discs came on the market, and funnily enough they still do.

the 2 piston sliding calipers are adequate, but little more. the rear with 4 pistons on a non floating disc are very good, possibly having a brembo master as standard helps there.

using the brakes from the `04 up, or R6 or R1 (the same on all of them ) with braided lines is well worth doing
 
Logged Logged  
 


be realistic - demand the impossible!
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#501974
zip1700 (User)
Fresh Boarder
Posts: 83
graphgraph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
Re:Best way to improve brakes 11 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Thanks for the info guys.
 
Logged Logged  
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#501985
zip1700 (User)
Fresh Boarder
Posts: 83
graphgraph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
Re:Best way to improve brakes 11 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
erizo wrote:
if you change to the later calipers, you do NOT have to change the rotors

been running the 4 pot calipers with non floating discs on my `01 for the last 7 years with no adverse effects whatsoever.

remember, opposed piston calipers were working fine before floating discs came on the market, and funnily enough they still do.

the 2 piston sliding calipers are adequate, but little more. the rear with 4 pistons on a non floating disc are very good, possibly having a brembo master as standard helps there.

using the brakes from the `04 up, or R6 or R1 (the same on all of them ) with braided lines is well worth doing
Thanks erizo. Lots of info. sure it will help. Do the newer calipers bolt right on???
 
Logged Logged  
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#502075
erizo (User)
Platinum Boarder
Posts: 1865
graphgraph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
Re:Best way to improve brakes 11 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
zip1700 wrote:
Thanks erizo. Lots of info. sure it will help. Do the newer calipers bolt right on???

same hole spacing, so no modifications needed.

the later handlebar master cylinder is a good idea. you can use the original and itīll work well, but the feel at the lever will be a bit wooden and lacking in feedback.
 
Logged Logged  
 


be realistic - demand the impossible!
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#502083
greenpus (User)
Platinum Boarder
Posts: 2151
graphgraph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
Re:Best way to improve brakes 11 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
zip1700 wrote:
Sounds like I need to get 04 and up parts. Remember, I used to a Warrior and a Buell.
save your money. put HH pads on the back and oem stock on the front. Bleed both front and back and ride.
I've also noticed if I don't bleed brakes yearly on my bike, the brakes get soft.
 
Logged Logged  
 
Last Edit: 2012/06/11 05:12 By greenpus.
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#592437
Ricohoc (User)
I am a man of peace, but I adore a riot!
Platinum Boarder
Posts: 3528
graphgraph
User Online Now Click here to see the profile of this user
Gender: Male ricohoc Location: Thailand Birthdate: 0000-02-23
Re:Best way to improve brakes 2 Months, 4 Weeks ago  
greenpus wrote:
zip1700 wrote:
Sounds like I need to get 04 and up parts. Remember, I used to a Warrior and a Buell.
save your money. put HH pads on the back and oem stock on the front. Bleed both front and back and ride.
I've also noticed if I don't bleed brakes yearly on my bike, the brakes get soft.


gp, which HH pads will fit the 2000 Road Star?
 
Logged Logged  
 
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#592442
Doc_V (User)
Platinum Boarder
Posts: 2251
graphgraph
User Online Now Click here to see the profile of this user
Re:Best way to improve brakes 2 Months, 4 Weeks ago  
RIch,

Sintered is just the type of compound. They tend to look like they've been painted with copper paint. FYI- HH Sintered pads were created for sport bikes and while grabbing harder, they have less feel and eat up rotors quickly. Not to mention, they can lock up your wheels way more easily too, which can be a real bad thing. I'd make sure you've tried everything else before you go with the HH.

Update: I just recalled that EBC recently released a Semi-Sintered pad for the Roadstar. EBC sent me a free set for testing their clutch spring, but I haven't tried them out yet. They're supposed to be the best of both worlds and are designed specifically for big v-twin cruisers.

Dennis Kirk sells them: https://www.denniskirk.com/1907210.sku?utm_source=pricegrabber&utm_medium=cse
 
Logged Logged  
 
Last Edit: 2013/02/24 00:14 By Doc_V.
 


The world breaks everyone, and afterward, *some* are strong at the broken places.
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#592444
Ricohoc (User)
I am a man of peace, but I adore a riot!
Platinum Boarder
Posts: 3528
graphgraph
User Online Now Click here to see the profile of this user
Gender: Male ricohoc Location: Thailand Birthdate: 0000-02-23
Re:Best way to improve brakes 2 Months, 4 Weeks ago  
Doc_V wrote:
RIch,

Sintered is just the type of compound. They tend to look like they've been painted with copper paint. FYI- HH Sintered pads were created for sport bikes and while grabbing harder, they have less feel and eat up rotors quickly. Not to mention, they can lock up your wheels way more easily too, which can be a real bad thing. I'd make sure you've tried everything else before you go with the HH.

Update: I just recalled that EBC recently released a Semi-Sintered pad for the Roadstar. They're supposed to be the best of both worlds and are designed specifically for cruisers. They sent me a free set for testing their clutch spring, but I haven't tried them out yet.

Dennis Kirk sells them: https://www.denniskirk.com/1907210.sku?utm_source=pricegrabber&utm_medium=cse


Thanks, Doc V.

I've got an email in to Stadium Yamaha looking for "plug & play" calipers that will improve the braking power of my 2000. Just turning every stone to improve them. Not ready to move on anything just yet.
 
Logged Logged  
 
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#592483
Charlie Horse (User)
Senior Boarder
Posts: 362
graphgraph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
Gender: Male charliehorsems kbatzler kbatzler@hotmail.com Location: La Quinta, CA Birthdate: 1966-01-14
Re:Best way to improve brakes 2 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
mkayx wrote:
steel braid brake lines and sintered double hh rated pads
plus 1... done that years ago... Huge improvement.
 
Logged Logged  
 
Charlie Horse


It only hurts when I laugh!!!
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
#592491
SKWEARpeg (User)
Platinum Boarder
Posts: 5308
graphgraph
User Offline Click here to see the profile of this user
Gender: Male Location: Milton, Florida Birthdate: 1958-00-00
Re:Best way to improve brakes 2 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Charlie Horse wrote:
mkayx wrote:
steel braid brake lines and sintered double hh rated pads
plus 1... done that years ago... Huge improvement.


I have read about the stainless braided cables elsewhere on this forum. Tom noticed a big change in his braking after we flushed his, and I think mine are a lot more solid as well. I would imagine, they bled the whole rear system the other day when they overhauled your rear caliper, Rico, but if you haven't bled the brakes up front as well, you might want to try that first.
 
Logged Logged  
 
  The administrator has disabled public write access.
Go to top Post Reply
Powered by FireBoardget the latest posts directly to your desktop
...................................................................... ...................................................................... ...................................................................... ...................................................................... ...................................................................... ...................................................................... ...................................................................... ...................................................................... ...................................................................... -->
New Forum Posts




The Road Star Clinic is a collaborative community of riders who archive and publish user contributed technical data about Yamaha Road Star motorcycles.

We also sponsor the creation and support of other community websites similar to our own. Inquiries about availability of a website for your community can be submitted to us via any "Contact Us" option on the Clinic.

Copyright 2003-2007 Road Star Clinic and its respective authors. Road Star Clinic is sponsored by the folks at MLSHomeQuest.com.