ultrastar wrote:
I don't know if any of you know how Harley-Davidson got to be the American leading motorcycle over Indian( well this is what I was told to me by a buddy of mine who was the head Inspacter for Indian in Gilroy CA.) During World War II. Harley-Davidson and Indian were both fighting to get the military contract . They both had a 500 cc flathead twins and when it came down to bargaining table Harley announced there new 750cc flathead twins and the military went with the bigger cc from 1940 through 1945, Harley-Davidson built over 60,000 750cc and Indian built over 30,000 of their 500cc flathead V-twins for other allied forces.
My dad was a Indian rider and to this day he still talks about how he used kick the Harley's riders on the oval track
That would be after Indian went out of business. Sammy Pierce bought out a lot of the dealers across the country and got as many of the molds and other stuff he could from the Indian Factory in Springfield Mass. and started making them in Gilroy. I still have his 2 page catalog around here somewhere.
The story your friend told you is the beginning of the end of Indian, or the first of many business mistakes they made before they closed the doors in 1953.
Being an old Indian rider (53 Chief) and still knowing and riding with many old Indian riders I think it is safe to say they have no or very little support from that group.
In the early 70's 3 Indian rallies where held in Springfield.
At the third one the first 'new owners' unvailed their new Indian. It was electric start, foot shift, with a panhead looking v-twin. Everyone there told them that at the very least it had to have a Flat Head motor and a hand shift, left hand throttle, and optional or additional foot starter. It was the flat head motor that set Indian apart, and I'll tell you I would still love to have a flat head today.
Mine was 80 cu. in. about half the
hp the * has, but with the right sprockets you could cruise at 80 in third all day long barely cracking the throttle.
ultrastar ask your father if he ever heard of
Brownie Betar I bought almost all my parts from him.
He built a totally chromed Indian Scout with 2 Mikuni carbs for his hill climber. Sweet bike.