I personally feel that speed laws are antiquated and need revision. The speed laws were enacted by the transportation safety board in the 50's when in order to standardize freeway speed limits they would put people in the passenger seat of a car blindfolded, and driven by an LEO, would ask that person to say when they felt the car was going too fast or fast enough. The average of that was 55mph. if you ever done 100 in a car built before the 80's you'll no that it is scary so it makes sense.

Now a days we still are held to this standard when vehicle technologies, braking abilities, tire compounds and road qualities have made high speed travel far safer. anyone who's done 100+mph in a modern car knows that you don't even really feel it.

I regularly ride @ 85mph and have unknowingly sustained 100mph and the roadstar plants, points and stops pretty well making it easy and comfortable to do.

I think an 80mph freeway limit and 100mph open highway limit would be reasonable.

come on to Napa where the cops get to sit on the sidewalk and run radar to bust you! Yup breaking the law and ignoring the wall to wall drunks running around winery to winery. Oh, thats' right they wouldn't like having their customers busted......

The amount or type of traffic enforcement in an area is usually determined by the head local enforcement officer (county sheriff or chief of police). Our Sheriff does not dictate our officers must write tickets. Not everyone needs a ticket everytime. Tickets have gotten very expensive and each stop must be evaluated by the officer who conducts the stop. Many things should be considered....has he stopped this person before for the same offense (the dispatcher can look it up), what were the weather, road, or traffic conditions, will a warning do? Sometimes in heavy traffic there is no place to make a safe stop (the officers safety and the public's). And not every officer is motivated to work traffic and some are over motivated. In our area you have to be really STUPID or dangerous for me to write a ticket. I can accomplish my job without taking food off someones table. Plus the fine goes to the state and they divide it amoung all state law enforcement agencies.

OK I'm off my soap box!! .................for now!

Ride and be happy!!!!!)

Reggie wrote:
I personally feel that speed laws are antiquated and need revision. The speed laws were enacted by the transportation safety board in the 50's when in order to standardize freeway speed limits they would put people in the passenger seat of a car blindfolded, and driven by an LEO, would ask that person to say when they felt the car was going too fast or fast enough. The average of that was 55mph. if you ever done 100 in a car built before the 80's you'll no that it is scary so it makes sense.

Now a days we still are held to this standard when vehicle technologies, braking abilities, tire compounds and road qualities have made high speed travel far safer. anyone who's done 100+mph in a modern car knows that you don't even really feel it.

I regularly ride @ 85mph and have unknowingly sustained 100mph and the roadstar plants, points and stops pretty well making it easy and comfortable to do.

I think an 80mph freeway limit and 100mph open highway limit would be reasonable.

I agree. Unfortunately the people that do not know how to drive over 60 far outnumber the people who know how to drive, and it would be a problem. Maybe make a lane for inept driving only?

Darn wrote:
Road_Hawg wrote:
Darn wrote:
(haven't been caught yet)

I have been caught enough for both of us.

So, how much do I owe you for my share?

I lost count years ago. Believe me, you don't want to pay that much.

Wewalaw wrote:
The amount or type of traffic enforcement in an area is usually determined by the head local enforcement officer (county sheriff or chief of police). Our Sheriff does not dictate our officers must write tickets. Not everyone needs a ticket everytime. Tickets have gotten very expensive and each stop must be evaluated by the officer who conducts the stop. Many things should be considered....has he stopped this person before for the same offense (the dispatcher can look it up), what were the weather, road, or traffic conditions, will a warning do? Sometimes in heavy traffic there is no place to make a safe stop (the officers safety and the public's). And not every officer is motivated to work traffic and some are over motivated. In our area you have to be really STUPID or dangerous for me to write a ticket. I can accomplish my job without taking food off someones table. Plus the fine goes to the state and they divide it amoung all state law enforcement agencies.

OK I'm off my soap box!! .................for now!

Wow. A reasonable LEO. Nice to hear from you. Around our parts of Ohio the State boys are thick as fleas, and zero tolerance seems to be the rule, not the exception. I've heard from a couple of younger guys in another mc forum that they've been given a break by LEO's. I work with a nurse whose husband is a city police officer. He got reprimanded for not giving enough speeding tickets. He has a similar outlook as yours.
OBMF

Ride and be happy!!!!!)

Most drivers today are just wacked. I am a Propane service tech (Yup...my friends call me Hank Hill) for 17 years. The truck I drive is a International 4400, Huge service truck, the crane lifts 8800 pounds. Anywho......I can't tell you how many times I am cut off or someone races to get in front of me....what the heck....what is it with driving "behind" me. I do the speed limit?? They even pass me on a double line. I wish I could have a camera set up on my dash......or even better yet, a paint ball gun mounted on the front bumber......"Yeeeeaaaahhhhh, thats the ticket"

You'll never see a Cycle rider texting while riding.....be careful out there folks!

Mark7 wrote:
When LEO pull someone over for a safety issue I'm fine with that. But when the traffic laws are used primarily as a revenue generation mechanism it makes blood shoot out of my eyes.

We just had a mandate from a nearby local town where each patrol officer MUST collar 25 DUI offenders each month or risk reassignment or a poor review. I mean, are there THAT many drunks out there? And if I'm snagged driving 70 in a 55 on a 4 lane highway just to avoid getting run over by the rest of the speeders is seems to me that I'm being forced to choose between pay a fine + fees & increased insurance or being injured or killed from being rear ended???!!!

Sorry guys this is s tender spot with me.

-M7

I have to ask Mark7,,,Is it Dunwoody?

i have not been stopped for speeding but on us 25 between corbin an london here in the state of kentucky the dang LEOs like to blue light me for doin 40 in a 55 and saying its suspicious driving! its friggin nite time and there are wild critters that run into the road and i like my altima and my little vstar to much to want to splatter a deer all over the dang place on either one!

99R*Rider wrote:
I think that many cities, Counties, and States could make a HUGE revinue Which would support more Cruiser cops etc) if they enforced the road laws accross the board and make the fines very high for those violating them (and I don't exclude my self). I know that won't be popular for those that crossover the law line but it is in all our best interest to be safe on the road. WHATS THE HURRY ANYWAY???????? I commute daily long distance on the freeway to work and rarely see any cops around. I run the posted speed or less to position myself in a clear lane(70 or less) and ocationally a bit more and am still getting run over by the 90+ crowd. Red lights, What a joke as long as the trafic keeps flowing through, it doesn't mean anything anymore. Basicly what I am saying is that our road system in general (and I don't just mean Michigan) is a FREE FOR ALL and driver/Rider be ware!!!!! I could go on for days on this topic but I won't. You all know how it is out there and until the law enforcement steps up (probably not!!!) were all potential victams on the road. I'm done now (but not really)

Ok, It looks like I opened up a can of worms here with my statement(figured it would). My point was that Stricter enforcement and painfully high fines just might get drivers to pay more attention to their driving habbits and that would make for safer roads and the fines would maby keep the LEO's employed instead of being layed off due to lack of budget. Bottom line is you break the law-you pay the fine, even if it happens to me. It,s amazing to me to see the Soccer Mom with a van full of kids blistering down the highway(probably late for practice) setting a fine example to all those future drivers.

Wait A Minuit..... Strike all that, it's probably a mute point. This sort of action would only make the Lawyers richer and the court system even more jammed up!!!! Guess this was all a wasted hopefull thought. We are all one mistake away from DEATH on our roads reguardless of what you ride/drive and more so if you ride.
Let's keep it safe