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Re:Warrior Relay Conversion ???? 4 Months ago  
I don't boost from a running vehicle because I thought the bike regulated at 13 volts and cars normally 14.4 volts. Am I correct or wrong also?
 
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Re:Warrior Relay Conversion ???? 4 Months ago  
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I don't boost from a running vehicle because I thought the bike regulated at 13 volts and cars normally 14.4 volts. Am I correct or wrong also?

Wrong.
 
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Re:Warrior Relay Conversion ???? 4 Months ago  
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I don't boost from a running vehicle because I thought the bike regulated at 13 volts and cars normally 14.4 volts. Am I correct or wrong also?

A bike and a car both use a 12 Volt battery...

Why would the charging voltage be different?
 
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Re:Warrior Relay Conversion ???? 4 Months ago  
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I don't boost from a running vehicle because I thought the bike regulated at 13 volts and cars normally 14.4 volts. Am I correct or wrong also?

Most car batteries should be able to handle a motorcycle w/o the car running. Unless the battery is on it's last leg!
 
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Re:Warrior Relay Conversion ???? 4 Months ago  
With the electronics that have been in cars for quite a while now it's never a good idea to boost another vehicle from a running vehicle. A surge or spike from one to the other can cause problems. Now it's okay to hook a running vehicle to a low battery in another vehicle to charge it a little as long as the ignition is off in the other vehicle.

Our bikes also regulate at 14+ volts.
 
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Re:Warrior Relay Conversion ???? 4 Months ago  
Any spike in amperage will be either absorbed in the battery or protected by fuses. A spike at most can only be what a car alternator can put out at max and that sure isn't what our batteries can put out max. Although it is true that jumping a bike should be able to be accomplished without the other vehicle running I wouldn't
hesitate to jump my bike with any vehicle with a 12v system running or not.
 
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Re:Warrior Relay Conversion ???? 4 Months ago  
The procedure I outlined was taught to me during Ford training and it was actually outlined in the owners manual of a 2006 Honda Civic I owned. Granted the Civic was a hybrid which may or may not have had anything to do with it. I haven't checked my current manual to see if there's a similar procedure.

It's conceivable that a high frequency electronic spike could completely bypass the battery. I don't know if cars are better protected against that nowadays but as the old saying goes - better safe than sorry.
 
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Re:Warrior Relay Conversion ???? 4 Months ago  
the last time I needed a jump, a call to Progressive Roadside Assistance and they sent out a guy with a charged box. No need to worry about an alternator spike. I went right to the dealer for a new battery.
 
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Re:Warrior Relay Conversion ???? 4 Months ago  
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It's conceivable that a high frequency electronic spike could completely bypass the battery.


Where does the high frequency come from?
We covered that the frequency increases with RPM, not sure how high of frequency you would get from an idling motor.
(Or where the spike comes from..?)

http://roadstarclinic.com/component/option,com_fireboard/Itemid,187/func,view/id,921925/catid,59/limit,10/limitstart,0/#921705
 
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Re:Warrior Relay Conversion ???? 4 Months ago  
If you have a high frequency spike that might destroy the car being jumped wouldn't it destroy the car that had the spike? Why wouldn't it bypass it's own battery and destroy the electrical system??? I guess I'm old school and don't fall for all that BS. I don't like making more out of a jump start than what is really there.
 
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