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Doc, cougar, or anyone that knows 1 Year, 10 Months ago  
To all i want to raise my front end by 4 inches and stiffen the rear for 2 up riding getting tired of dragging the frame over bumps, and a better set of springs for the front too since you have done some of this i would like to know where to get the parts and if i can do this myself or should i take it in as i said before i was a car mech for a very long time but don't know squat about a bike except how to ride<br><br>Post edited by: junglebear11, at: 2007/01/28 08:38
 
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Re:Doc, cougar, or anyone that knows 1 Year, 10 Months ago  
Hi cant help much on the front. Have you adjusted your rear shock? There are 3 positions that you can use (I think). The high setting is pretty stiff if I remember correctly.
 
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Re:Doc, cougar, or anyone that knows 1 Year, 10 Months ago  
JB

Like Daglassguy said you can change settings on the spring loosen the lock nut and tighten the adjustment nut.As far as the front goes, my understanding is you get new taller forks .....I suggest you google or whatever search you use and look for rake and trail of a motorcycle to get a better understanding of what effects you have when raising or lowering either end of the bike....I also read this the other day you might be interested in ithttp://roadstarclinic.com/content/view/143/128/....Doc has the edge on front end adjustments.Wish I could help more .......Coug <br><br>Post edited by: Cougar, at: 2007/01/28 10:23
 
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Re:Doc, cougar, or anyone that knows 1 Year, 10 Months ago  
here's a guy who's in the cleveland area... he has a great product ... especially the chopper kits... I don't see a roadstar listed but I'm sure he'd be interested in designing a kit to fit... or be able to hook you up with longer forks while maintaining your current triple tree set up... http://www.seegercycle.com/
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Re:Doc, cougar, or anyone that knows 1 Year, 9 Months ago  
Raising the front gets tricky, and can be expensive.

But there are a couple of things you can do to potentially reduce the frame dragging issue.

dglassguy had a good idea about adjusting the rear shock. It comes from the factory set for a comfortable ride for average rider. I always thought it was too loose (I am a little bigger than average). It does not have positions, but is continuosly adjustable from a nut on the shock/spring assembly. Take a look at the pictures in Pat's article about replacing the spring and you will see it on one end. This is actually accessable from the bottom of the bike.

http://roadstarclinic.com/content/view/97/128/

The better option would probably be to replace the rear spring to something with a higher capacity. I think nopork.com still has them relatively cheap.

The front suffers from the same problem (in my opinion). I have always thought the front was too mushy and compliant. Quite a few folks have managed to get a tighter feel in the front by changing the weight of their fork oil (stock is 5WT). Ching to something just a little higher will stiffen the front and not let it dive so deeply.

Some have replaced the springs in the front with springs that are more progressive. There is an article in our tech tips section about this too. It explains what you need to do to dissassemble the front end and install upgraded springs.

http://roadstarclinic.com/content/view/143/128/

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Re:Doc, cougar, or anyone that knows 1 Year, 9 Months ago  
Heu Guido

Had Seeger forward controls on my last bike. Great quality.
 
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Re:Doc, cougar, or anyone that knows 1 Year, 9 Months ago  
I think the previous posts, especially Gram's, have pretty much covered it all.

Where do you intend to &quot;raise the front end by 4 inches&quot;? A 4&quot; over front fork would raise the front floorboard about about 2 - 2.5&quot;. That's quite a bit; you will notice a change in the stability of the bike.

My bike is up 1.5&quot; at the front bolt (+4 forks) but I have 6 degree raked trees so that puts my trail number closer to stock.

For a big guy like you, try a 1000 lb spring, you'll notice a big difference. Also, at least 10 weight oil in the front forks should help. )I have mine at 7.5.) If the front is till too soft for you then just increase the weight of the oil until it's where you want it to be.

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Re:Doc, cougar, or anyone that knows 1 Year, 9 Months ago  
Doc i have ordered the springs waiting for them but i like the length of your front forks but i really don't want that much rake if you think the 4 inch would be to much and i would have severe handling probs then can i get them 2 over a long time back i had a super glide with 8 over and no rake didn't mind the long turns just a mater of getting used to it but that was a hog with basically a sportster front end now i have a bike with could very well be called a dresser front end so where did you buy the tubes for yours and if i put them on how bad could the bike get or maybe less rake on the trees i like to lean back abit its more comfortable for me
 
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Re:Doc, cougar, or anyone that knows 1 Year, 9 Months ago  
Increasing the length of your front fork while leaving all else the same will increase your trail. Certainly safer than decreasing trail but it will be somewhat of a slug at highway speeds and feel like it's going to fall over at parking lot speeds.

The best setup seems to be 6 in the trees, 6 in the neck and 4 over forks. Talk to the guys over at Looneys Site on Dephi. They have much more experience than me.

I don't have the longer forks, just a 4&quot; fork extension. Talk to this guy http://www.frankmain.qpg.com/. He was going to start making extended forks for the R*.

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Re:Doc, cougar, or anyone that knows 1 Year, 9 Months ago  
doc that is one thing i wanted to know where did you get the 4inch fork estensions
 
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