All I've seen from the rough times MC wise is fewer people in the showrooms, HD dealers offering MSRP instead of 10-15% above MSRP on new bikes. I still see bikes listed in the paper and on the Web for the prices I said before. Whether they're getting those prices or not is another story entirely.

I think if HD dealers were selling below MSRP, like metrics often do, it would piss off alot of their zombies (I mean faithful followers) who bought their bike a year or two ago for much more than what you can buy a new bike for now. Plus I think once you go down that route, you can't turn around when the economy turns around. I agree metric bikes MSRPs are approaching those of HDs and that's disturbing. If HDs and metrics were about the same price, I'd have a HD most likely.

Metrics don't have the loyal following HD does. How many of you will buy a yami next? You may wind up with one, but you will consider offerings from kawi, honda, suzuki, hd, etc. HD folks get excited if they change a knob on a bike from one year to another. For many HD owners, anything other than a HD is not a MC. HD does have the brand loyalty no other MC company has. Years of masterful marketing.