i dislike both of the bikes.

jj- jj is the better fabricator hands down.jj would arrive in sturgis with one heck of a crick in his neck due to looking around the tank & bars to see where he was going.Shaquille Oneal is the only person that could see over the tank & bars. the exhaust is begging to cut a leg wide open. although, i'm sure it's loud.

pjd- bike is different for sure. the riding postion does look comfty.but,the seat would kill my butt. IMHO the whole smoke thing was uneeded. sometimes less is more.

occ- didn't build anything. everyone other than occ built a electric snowdozer.

9pm here we go, well see what America says

Mr_Shamrock wrote:
Say what you want about Jr. - the boy has some serious vision and has the crew to make it reality.


And if it were not for Paul Sr's. hard work to make money in the beginning with the business he built Jr. would be NO WHERE!!! He would not have the money to buy the equipment he was able to buy had he not sued his own Father for a piece of the business. While he may have some talent he's still a spoiled f***ing little brat that I have no respect for. I didn't get along with my father either but I would NEVER have thought to disrespect him and talk to him the way Jr. did his father.

Sorry this subject of OCC rubs me wrong.

hardone2get wrote:
And if it were not for Paul Sr's. hard work to make money in the beginning with the business he built Jr. would be NO WHERE!!! He would not have the money to buy the equipment he was able to buy had he not sued his own Father for a piece of the business.

Not that it really matters, but just for the record, it was actually the father who sued the son.

I lost interest in OCC a looong time ago. They used to take two episodes to build a bike. You got a chance to see what they actually doing.

The interactions between Sr. & Jr. was always an interesting part of it, but, now it seems like that's all it's about. If they build a bike, we that's just coincidental.

Hopefully they can now put the thing to bed.





BD

PJD GOT MY VOTE JJ is out of touch with what people want to see. I don't believe fabrication is why he lost People just don't like his Rudeness and my bike the best CRAP Junior never cut any one down and share the stage with his crew building it and after wining .After losing Jesse James, looked like a fool talking crap about the rest of them

I think JJ was looking for the vote from the old school rough and dirty biker gang type… His bad luck was that those guys don’t watch these evening soaps.
Sr. lost because he didn’t build a bike. I love what he built but he was way off base for the expectations of this competition.
I like Jr’s bikes but I also think he was the cause of his problems with his father. He didn’t respect his father or his fellow workers enough to follow the rules and guidelines of his employment at OCC. He owes all the credit to his father for giving him the opportunity to become the builder that he is today.
Sr. was a douche to Jr. but I think he was doing what most fathers would do when it comes to working with a son or daughter. He expected them to be the best role model any employer could ask for. Fathers always expect more from their children than they do from the other employees. Fathers just want to be proud of what they raised and Jr. blew it. I ride my sons ass all the time but its because I know he can do better and I don’t want him to go through life being an oxygen thief.
I didn’t like the way my dad rode my ass growing up either but because he did I don’t have to depend on anyone to get through this world.

I don't follow OCC as their bikes have always made me puke.
However I thought this might be interesting and it was in a couple ways. Senior brought something at least interesting. JJ showed he is a mad fabricator (stainless, really? My god is that hard to imagine especially the springer). However in the end he acted kind of dick-ish and his design was off the mark. I knew that JR was going to win the minute they had his whole crew out there (and they didn't with senior) prior to the winner announcement. It was obvious.

I still can't believe 30" freaking tires on that thing JR built. My apologies to all of you that love the giant ass rear tire look but those wagon wheels look just as stupid.

Only words that did ring true all night were when JJ said "mine is a rider, their's aren't". I have to agree.