EL PASO KID wrote:
The ones that get me are people like my boss. Clutch cable breaks on his $25k 1000 miles on it rolling sofa HD. He rode it because it was a mandatory army. Instead of just buying a clutch cable and replacing it in the parking lot. He has the thing towed 20 miles so the "OFFICAL" HD mechanics can fix it.... know another guy who got apes and paid over 1000 dollars for the labor and parts. HD knew what they were doing racking in some big money....

ya i see alot of this on the hd forums - simple fixes but some people have more money then mechanical skills. what sucks on the hd is to switch cable, you need to pull off the trans side cover off to get the cable out of it.

slothy wrote:
when i see a roadie on the road, i pee on them and yell jap crap... - not really lol

having had both Harley and roadie and now 2 harleys (street glide and a roadking), you def see the clickyness with the larger groups, no doubt, but as mentioned here i can count only a few times that i personally seen someone comment about "jap" stuff and seem to be serious about it. I wanted to say hey dude take your seat off, and tell me what the sensor sitting there says on where it was manufactured.

as for the price, yes Harleys are alittle more ( comparing a softtail to roadie), but you get abs/elec cruise and since the touring models are in a diff category imo and have far far more comforts built in cant say they compare to the roadie in terms of comfort in stock form and the new 103 motors are yummy. Does that justify the 20k price tag on the touring models, not sure, but you dont hear me complaining about elec cruise that keeps its speed pretty good with elevation changes and auto volume radio when speeding up or slowing down with the stock radio or all the chicks that throw me their panties cause im rocking a harley.... (kidding)

you wont catch me shopping for harley clothing (tshirts ect), but you got to admit - its a successful clothing line.

hey slothy can i barrow the glide? i could use the dirty panties to sell my used road star parts

anytime lol.. just have to push it right now

kmb102 wrote:
I just shake my head at how much they hate us!!! Pound for pound, dollar for dollar I will put my R/S S against one with similar mods. Is it because they paid more for less, I just dont understand people. I could understand if it was like comparing a Pinto to a BMW!!!
You know what my Gramma used to say about people like that ?
She said "F**k 'em".

i dont know but i hear alot of why do they refure our bikes as "jap crap" "rice burner" "harley wanna be" ect when their is a awefull amount of harley bashing going on rite here and i would say that most of the comments made here towards the other brands should be more directed at the rider not the brand so are we any different than them at this point? im fairly new to riding with all of my 10,000 miles under my belt over 4 years but isn't it about geting on two wheels and taking the ride? not what brand your bank account can buy you. i ride to be at at peace, feed my soul, and not worry about what others think.

i have a friend of mine at work that owns a harley and besides me he is the only other person at my work who rides. he will not ride to work cause he is worried someone will steal his 1988 sportster so guess where his bike is all year? in his garage unless he is puting gas in or riding it whitch maybe 600 miles a year. and it kinda bugs me when he says "if i had a jap bike i wouldn't worry that someone would steal it cause no one would want it that bad" it bugs me pretty bad that thats his point of view but maybe its the 1%er brain washing he got when he rode with them or whatever but i think he lost his sence of what riding realy is about. or am i just to much of a noob to get it

dude 1988 sportsters are super sought out bikes for thieves lol.... i would smack him and tell him his 4k bike is nothing special..

I think ya got it smoke

slothy wrote:
dude 1988 sportsters are super sought out bikes for thieves lol.... i would smack him and tell him his 4k bike is nothing special..

and its super neglected to boot all the alluminium on it its so pited it looks like the surface of the moon. i wouldn't give him $1500 for it

Honestly in the end, every biker in the world does something to whatever bike they're riding to make it their own. That's what's great about the r*, its relatively cheap to own one, and still has a great aftermarket backing.
The best part for me is when someone walks up and looks at my bike and says "nice Harley, what model is it?" I quickly inform them its not a Harley, its a metric, a yamaha to be exact. Their response is usually something like yamaha makes that? Really? And the even better part is when a hd guy comes up and says nice roadstar. Has happened a couple of times usually I end up asking of they had a roadie and the answer is always yes.... If it has two wheels, put the kick stand up and ride. Except for a liquor-cycle...

losergamer04 wrote:
There are your Harley Riders then you have your Harley Bikers. The big difference is one understands the cost of one and the other thinks "I didn’t know Harley made a Yamaha model."

I ride with a lot of Harley guys, one a former stratoliner owner. Most don't hate us at all. But the riders understand there is a premium. "There is a bike for everybody and there is a Harley for everybody" is a common phrase. It's no different with cars. BMW's usually cost more because they are nicer overall than let's say a Toyota. Harley is a premium product. Most people find the premium to not be of value, like many of the people here.

Really, many of the upper Harley bikes are superior to the Stars, they are. I've ridden both and done a lot of research and your nicer Harleys are nicer, but at a cost. I can't afford the Harley I want so I ride the next best thing (and I feel it's better than any Dyna and some Soft Tails). And their reliability is much better with the Twin Cam bikes. I've not seen a TC bike broken down yet. They also have a better aftermarket than most. Yamaha is the next best. Sorry, but that's a good thing for people like me who can bolt stuff on but not fab or do major engine work.

Now, the Bikers are into the CULTure. The idea of buying an American bike (though all Gold Wings are made here...). It's about the group. They are the people I don't like. My dad is one of them, but he at least respects the fact I don't have the money for a Harley, nor the time to justify that kind of money for one if I had it. For people like him, 20,000 is a slow year.

To end the rant, we all ride what we want and why we want to. The reason som e of "us" "hate" them and some of "they" "hate" us is ignorance, jealousy, and an over all idea that one thinks they are superior to the other for some reason because we all have different values.

Well said.