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Re:How fast is too fast? 10 Months, 4 Weeks ago  
I'll just throw something out about this situation. Maybe the guy on the HD was in over his head and was embarrased to admit it. Some people buy big boy toys because they want to be cool but have no idea what they are getting into. A lot are weekend riders who like to putt around town just to be seen. Others like to push the envelope and feel the rush, so to speak. (I'm not saying that is the case here but I have witnessed this firsthand). I'm somewhere in between. I ride at my pace. Trying to keep up just for the sake of keeping up can be dangerous for him and you. Things can go bad in a hurry when someone is trying to do more than they are capible of and affraid to admit it. When I ride with a group and am unsure of their usual riding habits the first thing I make clear is that I will ride at my confort level. If I can't keep up I can find my own way home. I don't try to make the others ride at my speed and I don't try to ride at theirs. I usually ride in the rear for this reason. The point I trying to make is simply this, know you limit and stay within those limits. If the guy felt like he was being put in a situation where he was endangering himself and others he should have dropped out and caught up with ya'll later. No shame in that. But he should not have made you feel like you didn't know what you were doing. Just because he was on a certain brand bike doesn't make him the expert, although by the sound of it, that what he wanted you to think. Just my .02...
 
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Re:How fast is too fast? 10 Months, 4 Weeks ago  
I imagine that the issue with the 103/110 at sustained speed is heat build-up causing ping and the knock sensors are retarding the timing to counter it.
That's the 2 valve head with higher compression tax! Our cylinder heads charge cool with the air/fuel mixture going into the cylinder absorbing heat from the previous cycle much better due to the 4 valve arrangement, and a reasonable compression ratio works with this. One reason I would never go for HC pistons in a Road Star. Like I've said before, Yamaha spent a lot of money developing this engine for reliability and durability. I'm not opposed to feeding it more of what it wants, as a richer mixture helps to cool the internals, but when it comes time to fire, you only want that happening on schedule!
 
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Re:How fast is too fast? 10 Months, 4 Weeks ago  
I don't know much about all the tech stuff. All I know is that at 75 mine runs good,but at 80 the motor seems to hit a sweet spot and the sound changes. It will stay there as long as I want it to.

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Re:How fast is too fast? 10 Months, 4 Weeks ago  
Peer pressure is a witch!

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Re:How fast is too fast? 10 Months, 4 Weeks ago  
Unless you've installed a speed corrector our bikes use to run 5 miles under what the speedometer says. 80 mph is actually 75. or unless your running bigger tires or riding according to what your GPS says.
 
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Re:How fast is too fast? 10 Months, 4 Weeks ago  
I used to ride occasionally with 3 HD's and 1 VTX 1300. When I would lead the group I would ride 75 - 80 MPH on the freeway.....that's our "sweet spot" so to speak. The HD guys would always bitch and moan at a stop, "Why do you have to go so fast? It's hard on your rice burner to run like that." I just smiled and said, "If your HD's can't keep up then I'll let you lead."
.......they don't ask me to go with them anymore

-side note: I still ride with the VTX guy. We laugh about the HD guys a lot.
 
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Re:How fast is too fast? 10 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
I'm right there with most 75 - 80 is my cruising speed! Bike runs find and is a comfortable ride! I also like to be out front and not much of a follower.
 
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Re:How fast is too fast? 10 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
My son just got a Rocket III - huge jump from his 800cc Marauder which he flogged hard - and we typically cruise all day at 75mph. His bike isn't even barely turning over and mine just purrs at that speed. 80 feels a little buzzy to me, but the R likes it as well. Your new "friend" was just whining because his HD was probably overheating.
 
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Re:How fast is too fast? 10 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
fastjohnny wrote:
I used to ride occasionally with 3 HD's and 1 VTX 1300. When I would lead the group I would ride 75 - 80 MPH on the freeway.....that's our "sweet spot" so to speak. The HD guys would always bitch and moan at a stop, "Why do you have to go so fast? It's hard on your rice burner to run like that." I just smiled and said, "If your HD's can't keep up then I'll let you lead."
.......they don't ask me to go with them anymore

-side note: I still ride with the VTX guy. We laugh about the HD guys a lot.


You must have rode with wusses, the HD riders I ride with run hard and fast.
 
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Re:How fast is too fast? 10 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Put my .02 in. I did a 30 day, 7000+ mile trip on this bike when it was almost brand new, and there were days on end in those pesky plain and desert states that I would set the throttle lock at 85 mph and just cruise. It was buzzy but I fail to see how I over-taxed the motor or the bike.
 
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