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Re:Another AIS bites the dust!! 9 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
exoticimport wrote:
I apologize, but what else does this do for the bike? Christy

In many cases with aftermarket exhaust, you will hear a "POP" when the bike decels. This is due to the AIS. Removing the AIS will stop that popping noise.
 
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Re:Another AIS bites the dust!! 9 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
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I have the same question as exoticimport: What does the Baron's Kit do? Is it required to eliminate the AIS?

all the barons kit does is clean up AIS removal with some stoppers. a lot of folks (myself as well until using the barons kit) just remove the ugly plumbing and j.b.weld a couple of M10 bolts into the elbows that are left in the heads.

the barons kit requires removal of the elbows.
 
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Re:Another AIS bites the dust!! 9 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
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I have the same question as exoticimport: What does the Baron's Kit do? Is it required to eliminate the AIS?

No. You dont have to buy a kit at all to do this. All the Barons kit comes with is two plugs for the Jugs...and an aluminum bar type thing to help tap the plugs in place.

If you dont want the kit you can use spent .45 cal shell casings instead. And a golf tee to plug the vacumm line.

I bought the kit because it was cheap and I wanted the plugs to match the color of my jugs.
 
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Re:Another AIS bites the dust!! 9 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
The barons kit has flanges and plugs to close up the holes you leave behind once the AIS is gone.

http://www.baronscustom.com/catalog/display/526/index.html

That is the link to the kit for my 2004, kits vary based on your year. The kit for the '04 is super easy.

You can fab your own flanges but I think it is easier to buy a kit.
 
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Re:Another AIS bites the dust!! 9 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
OK, got it! Thanks so much! Christy
 
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Re:Another AIS bites the dust!! 9 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
exoticimport wrote:
Question, how does it clean up the looks of your bike?

What does this baron's kit do?

I read this on the tech site: Pro on removing the AIS= No more decel popping from your aftermkt exhaust. Is this what you're are talking about?

I have to have it simply put. It's a girl thing...

Thanks!


With the stock pipes, which your looking to go back to, the popping on decel shouldn't be a big issue. If its there, you won't be able to hear it. With after market pipes, its noticeable. The AIS(air injection system)pumps fresh air into the exhaust chambers in the heads, to help com-bust any unburned gas/vapor before it exits the exhaust. The popping, is actually unburned fuel/vapor igniting before it goes racing for the open end of the tail pipe.

The Barons removal kit, simply provides plugs and or covers(depending on the year of bike) to seal the openings in the heads when the AIS fittings are removed. Go down the page to the thread titled "Should I just get rid of my AIS". and on the last page(?), JD posted a link that shows both styles. The plugs for the 99-03, and the bolt on covers for the 04's and laters.

If you look at your bike, on the left side, you'll see a fitting with a hose attached where mine just has a small round mushroom shaped cap. There's one attached to each cylinder. Look between the cooling fines on the front edge of the front cylinder, and the back edge of the rear cylinder and about a third of the way down from the top, you'll see a little button(s)...



The AIS is controlled by vacuum on the older carbed bikes, and electronically on the newer FI bikes. The vacuum activates a switch, that turns the pump on and sends fresh air to the head. It's actually an EPA thingie, whose sole purpose is to convince an exhaust sniffer that any thing coming out the end of the exhaust pipe is as completely burned as possible. Since any residual is being com-busted in the exhaust, it adds no horsepower advantage at all. The exhaust just has more CO1, CO2, and water vapor etc., instead of the more complicated gas vapors from the gas and air mix that may have been there.
 
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Re:Another AIS bites the dust!! 9 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Again, real clear and thank you for your help! I'm going to follow thru on all this myself!
 
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Re:Another AIS bites the dust!! 9 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
SKWEARpeg wrote:
exoticimport wrote:
Question, how does it clean up the looks of your bike?

What does this baron's kit do?

I read this on the tech site: Pro on removing the AIS= No more decel popping from your aftermkt exhaust. Is this what you're are talking about?

I have to have it simply put. It's a girl thing...

Thanks!


With the stock pipes, which your looking to go back to, the popping on decel shouldn't be a big issue. If its there, you won't be able to hear it. With after market pipes, its noticeable. The AIS(air injection system)pumps fresh air into the exhaust chambers in the heads, to help com-bust any unburned gas/vapor before it exits the exhaust. The popping, is actually unburned fuel/vapor igniting before it goes racing for the open end of the tail pipe.

The Barons removal kit, simply provides plugs and or covers(depending on the year of bike) to seal the openings in the heads when the AIS fittings are removed. Go down the page to the thread titled "Should I just get rid of my AIS". and on the last page(?), JD posted a link that shows both styles. The plugs for the 99-03, and the bolt on covers for the 04's and laters.

If you look at your bike, on the left side, you'll see a fitting with a hose attached where mine just has a small round mushroom shaped cap. There's one attached to each cylinder. Look between the cooling fines on the front edge of the front cylinder, and the back edge of the rear cylinder and about a third of the way down from the top, you'll see a little button(s)...



The AIS is controlled by vacuum on the older carbed bikes, and electronically on the newer FI bikes. The vacuum activates a switch, that turns the pump on and sends fresh air to the head. It's actually an EPA thingie, whose sole purpose is to convince an exhaust sniffer that any thing coming out the end of the exhaust pipe is as completely burned as possible. Since any residual is being com-busted in the exhaust, it adds no horsepower advantage at all. The exhaust just has more CO1, CO2, and water vapor etc., instead of the more complicated gas vapors from the gas and air mix that may have been there.


So basically Al Gore hates anyone that removes the AIS
 
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Re:Another AIS bites the dust!! 9 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
It's a mutual feeling between me and algore, so all's good.
 
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Re:Another AIS bites the dust!! 9 Months, 2 Weeks ago  
Well managed to get out and take it for a test ride. HOLY CRAP!!
All popping and backfires are eliminated! Being that I live at 10,000ft I was only hoping to mitigate the backfires but I couldn't get it to backfire at all.
 
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