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Re:If you were going back to stock carb system. . . 1 Year, 8 Months ago  
If you have resistors plugged into the tps cable, then the actually tps cable end is missing that connects to the carb. Whoever did that must of known of that trick from back when we started adapting the S&S carbs. The resistors are suppose to fool the ecu into believing the tps was there. Here is a pic from way back when we did these.

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz294/usafretired1997/TPS.jpg
 
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Re:If you were going back to stock carb system. . . 1 Year, 8 Months ago  
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This is one of the Universals that I mentioned;
http://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=RA-066V
This is the model I use. There is also an Oval one, 4"X7".
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Thank you Spydr, I guess I need to learn to start looking in the sig pictues before I ask stupid questions, huh? Is the oval one the one shown in Curt's sig picture above? Do these open filters have any issues when riding in the rain? Riding in the rain is not a goal of mine, but black clouds do seem to follow me around alot.

Thanks again, Mike
 
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Re:If you were going back to stock carb system. . . 1 Year, 8 Months ago  
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If you have resistors plugged into the tps cable, then the actually tps cable end is missing that connects to the carb. Whoever did that must of known of that trick from back when we started adapting the S&S carbs. The resistors are suppose to fool the ecu into believing the tps was there. Here is a pic from way back when we did these.

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz294/usafretired1997/TPS.jpg


That is definitely what it is. They cut the cable between the connectors and the TPS to add the resistors. I did not take the time to read the color bands, did not figure anyone would be that helpful as to know what the resistors were suppose to be that were installed. If I were go back to stock, all I have to do is unplug the modification and plug in the new TPS.

Mike
 
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Re:If you were going back to stock carb system. . . 1 Year, 8 Months ago  
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Thank you Spydr, I guess I need to learn to start looking in the sig pictues before I ask stupid questions, huh? Is the oval one the one shown in Curt's sig picture above? Do these open filters have any issues when riding in the rain? Riding in the rain is not a goal of mine, but black clouds do seem to follow me around alot.

Thanks again, Mike


Man, don't apologize, we all do it .
Yes, the one in Curt's pic is the other one that I spoke of.
I don't have any issue riding in the rain. And I've gotten caught in some pretty good rain in the last couple of weeks.

K&N does make a 'Breathable' rain cover for them, I just haven't
bought one yet.

Keep asking those questions Mike, until you have a clear
understanding. Not getting the problem fixed because you
didn't understand the solution is more frustrating than
the original problem. Been there, Done that!

These folks will help you get it right.
 
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Re:If you were going back to stock carb system. . . 1 Year, 8 Months ago  
I forgot about one bracket if you decide to go stock carb. The idle adjustment is mounted to a bracket that is right at the base of the pushrod tubes. If you decide to buy that carb, see if they will throw that in. If not, I might still have that bracket laying around here. All based on which route you decide to go. Was nice talking to you on the phone. Hope I helped some.


Edit, the chock cable is also located on the left side under the chrome cover for the stock fuel pump. You can see that chrome cover in my sig pic.
 
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Re:If you were going back to stock carb system. . . 1 Year, 8 Months ago  
When you get the TPS hooked back up you'll probably notice an increase in performance during part throttle and cruise. With the resistors there the computer hasn't allowed the extra timing it normally would with a functioning TPS.
 
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Re:If you were going back to stock carb system. . . 1 Year, 8 Months ago  
"If I were going back to stock carb system. . . I would shoot myself!

Unbolt that carb and toss in trash (please god dont recycle it some other foolish motorcycle company might find it) then bolt on a Mikuni 42 and smile.
 
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Re:If you were going back to stock carb system. . . 1 Year, 8 Months ago  
Well guys, right or wrong, I picked up a used factory carb assembly, airbox, and cables tonight on ebite. I guess I will wait until it arrives and see what all is included then probably order a carb joint and what ever else is needed. Still not committed on the change yet, but covering bases. Looks like you guys are stuck with my stupid questions for a while.

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Re:If you were going back to stock carb system. . . 1 Year, 8 Months ago  
mbk wrote:
Well guys, right or wrong, I picked up a used factory carb assembly, airbox, and cables tonight on ebite. I guess I will wait until it arrives and see what all is included then probably order a carb joint and what ever else is needed. Still not committed on the change yet, but covering bases. Looks like you guys are stuck with my stupid questions for a while.

sorry, Mike


Good for you. The only stupid questions are ones you didn't ask. With everybody's help you'll have it fixed in no time
 
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Re:If you were going back to stock carb system. . . 1 Year, 8 Months ago  
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If you have resistors plugged into the tps cable, then the actually tps cable end is missing that connects to the carb. Whoever did that must of known of that trick from back when we started adapting the S&S carbs. The resistors are suppose to fool the ecu into believing the tps was there. Here is a pic from way back when we did these.

http://i837.photobucket.com/albums/zz294/usafretired1997/TPS.jpg



It might stop the stock ecu from causing the blinks, but it also never allows the it to go into WOT timing curve, keeps it in CT curve regardless of throttle position. Without resistors, by default the ecu goes into wot curve, but you get the blinks. If you have the dyn3k, without resistors, it to by default goes into WOT curve, but no blinking of light.
I don't know enough about timing curves, but both Yamaha and Dyna use by default WOT curve and not the CT curve, there must be a reason tho to use WOT?? This resistor set-up over rides the default mode and keep it in the CT curve.
 
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