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Re:A Little Help Please - Clutch Slippage - Sea Foam> 1 Year ago  
i love the barnett kit and the t6 rotella
 
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Re:A Little Help Please - Clutch Slippage - Sea Foam> 1 Year ago  
Rod--

I intend to keep using the Rotella; the bike actually love it and at 39500 the slippage was probably the springs...if it still slips after the Barnetts are installed I will rethink this, of course
 
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Re:A Little Help Please - Clutch Slippage - Sea Foam> 1 Year ago  
Guess I should have added we are running Barnetts in our bikes. I will say some have had a problem with the stock screws. If you go to the tech section you can get the size. I snapped one taking it out. I was not cranking at all, it just snapped.
 
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Re:A Little Help Please - Clutch Slippage - Sea Foam> 1 Year ago  
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I've been using the Rotella Syn for a couple years now and have no issues with it. My slippage started well before the introduction of the Rotella but the symptoms were the same as yours. You should be fine after the Barnett's springs.
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Yeh but what oil were ya running before the rotella that may have also had not alway wet clutch freidnly fric mods or less zddp that not FT cam friendly either which is the more important of the 2 issues?

Anyway,if your running rotella T6 5-40 it still has just enough zddp/1200ppm whats considered minimum protection for a stock mild FT cam application vs for example rotella T 15-40 that has slightly less then 1200ppm zddp.

You seem to know bikes pretty well and wonder why for a few $$ more why you wont simply run oil that's specifically mfg'd with proper additive pkg designed for an old school air cooled FT cam'd motorcyle motor like the RS has.

I am sure some of the 6-7 or so FT cam/lifter failures we have seen here in RSC over the ast yr or were caused by running improper pass car or truck oil with too low zddp lvl.thats for sure.

That was a real issue with FT cam'd classic car motors untill people got on board with the changes in the oil industry and it can affect the Ft cam/lifters in the RS the same way too!

I just dont undertstand or see any sence when so many guys here in RSC that really like thier bikes caring well for them then on the other hand refusing to spend a measly $10-12 more to buy proper motorcycle oil ?

With motorcyle oils like Amsoil mcv or mobil-1 v-twin both full syn in 20-50 with a much better 1400-1700ppm zddp lvl for significantly better protection of the FT cam & lifters in the RS motor & better protection from the extreem heat generated by the lrg old school air cooled RS motor too along with no fric mod that arent always wet clutch friendly either?

Just makes no sence to me to forgo/give up all that additional protection the Asmoil or Mobil-1 bike oils provide for no reason other then to save $10-12 per oil change on 4qts of oil to purposely run pass car/truck oil that of course protects ok th at we know wont gernade the RS motor but it's defiantely not the best choice protection for the RS motor either.

Scott
 
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Re:A Little Help Please - Clutch Slippage - Sea Foam> 1 Year ago  
Man this beats the heck out of me. Why would you run a diesel turbo oil in a motorcycle in the first place? No offense entended but if you can afford a bike run motorcycle oil in it.
 
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Re:A Little Help Please - Clutch Slippage - Sea Foam> 1 Year ago  
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Man this beats the heck out of me. Why would you run a diesel turbo oil in a motorcycle in the first place? No offense entended but if you can afford a bike run motorcycle oil in it.

Because it's good oil and that's what I want to run.
 
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Re:A Little Help Please - Clutch Slippage - Sea Foam> 1 Year ago  
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Man this beats the heck out of me. Why would you run a diesel turbo oil in a motorcycle in the first place? No offense entended but if you can afford a bike run motorcycle oil in it.

Because it's good oil and that's what I want to run.





lolol....
 
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Re:A Little Help Please - Clutch Slippage - Sea Foam> 1 Year ago  
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Man this beats the heck out of me. Why would you run a diesel turbo oil in a motorcycle in the first place? No offense entended but if you can afford a bike run motorcycle oil in it.

Because it's good oil and that's what I want to run.

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" Because it's good oil and that's what I want to run "

Thats the thing/attitude i just dont get,how can some people completely ignore and or not believe the facts on whats changed in the oil industry over the recent 6-8 yrs or so due to EPA/Emmissions/changing Gov regs reducing the zddp lvls in most oils.

The lower zddp lvls in many of todays oils can in some cases be detrimental to the old school FT cam apps like the R* has esp since we have seen more then a few FT cam/lifter fails posted in this site over past yr or so too many of which i would bet was due to running pass car/truc oil with lower zddp lvl then even T6 Rotella has.

But i was quoting info i got directly from oil engineers & oil chemists that were currently working @ oil mfgs & oil additive mfg's that know more about oil then all of us & don't normally rec thier car/truck oil for wet clutch & FT cam'd air cooled v-twin bike motor applications.

But i do realize the T6 Rotella is a moderately priced good quality oil specifically designed for pass cars/trucks,but it's just not the best choice for a lrg air cooled old school FT cam'd 1700 CC v-twin motorcycle motor either.

You can lead a horse to water but you sure cant make it drink!!!/LOL!!!

Happy motoring!!!

Scott
 
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Re:A Little Help Please - Clutch Slippage - Sea Foam> 1 Year ago  
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Man this beats the heck out of me. Why would you run a diesel turbo oil in a motorcycle in the first place? No offense entended but if you can afford a bike run motorcycle oil in it.

The Rotella T6 is JASO MA rated thus it is motorcycle usable without worry. My Roadie loves the stuff...when I originally posted I was, frankly, not thinking about the weak OEM springs...thought maybe the Rotella formulation had changed...further checking says I was wrong...it happens once a millennium...I am now good until 3000
 
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Re:A Little Help Please - Clutch Slippage - Sea Foam> 1 Year ago  
scottw you are worried about the zddp ppm the rotella t6 is 1200ppm and is jaso cert.
 
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