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Re:New owner. Wishing it was better news 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
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I'm a couple hours from you, but would be willing to check it out for you. I have rebuilt a few.



This ^^^^^^^ is probably one of the best offers you could ever get. Take him up on it, if you can.
 
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Re:New owner. Wishing it was better news 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
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Mr_Shamrock wrote:
I'm a couple hours from you, but would be willing to check it out for you. I have rebuilt a few.



This ^^^^^^^ is probably one of the best offers you could ever get. Take him up on it, if you can.


I like how Allen says he's rebuilt a "few"...........
 
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Re:New owner. Wishing it was better news 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Allen is top notch help! Great guy, and knows his stuff.
 
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Re:New owner. Wishing it was better news 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
remember it will run like shit with no air filter, and IMHO stage one does require rejet, unless you wanna run lean and hot , i pretty sure thats right, but ifn you live in vanFUCKINcouver, it might not matter tho.
 
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Re:New owner. Wishing it was better news 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Let me see if this works. I've tried responding several times. I keep getting booted out.

update:
today I took it down again and adjusted the float to make it more full and tightened the PMS.

While open I noted, #35 pilot jet, 165 main jet. I did a dark room backlight on the diaphragm to double check no tears or holes. I ran a guitar string down every opening and shot carb cleaner into each hole to see if it came out the correct places. Yes yes and yes. I can not see anything wrong in anyway. Zero restrictions.

It fired up cold second turn and idles great. no choke. BTW yes I understand its an enricher but its easier and everyone knows what you mean when you say choke. Different principle action, same use. If I try to add choke, it sputters n dies. Starts no choke, stalls with choke.

I pulled a plug and it is black and ever so slightly moist. After only approx. 20 minutes on them. That's rich. No question. But then why is it that when I cover the secondary air jet at the mouth of the carb it gets smooth? Like it's lean. Ive twisted the PMS from 1 to 3 1/3 turns and it doesn't effect anything. If I open all the way nothing, if I close all the way puh puh stall. So then why does it cough big when I manage to get it to slowly build rpm's upto about 1/4 to 1/3 throttle? It will puff a huge cough, every now and again a little light with it, and puh puh puh stall. Unless I get off the throttle quick enough then it will go back to smooth idle.

I cleaned the heck outa the ol girl. I even bypassed the fuel filter and pump individually and collectively to see if it would work.

Here's another interesting item. When I first ran the bike after sitting for 2 years, it wouldn't start without choke, and I had to rev it to keep it running. But it was blowing black smoke. So I pulled and ended up replaceing the spark plugs. NOW, I did go cheap on the plugs as I wasn't sure if the carb was going to ever work. I didn't want to spend a bunch on plugs and find that the carb is toast. Is it possible that the plugs just cant burn the mixture? I thought how bad could they be? They are new and are spark plugs for this bike, but I read someone said their bike ran better getting platinum NGK because they ran hotter? These are Advance auto brand $2 plugs. Is it possible brand new plugs are not keeping up? I gapped them to 32-35. I expected them to do the job they need to but would need replaced much sooner, at which time knowing the bike was ok I would drop the money on the plugs.

I WOULD LOVE to have you look this over shamrock!!! I might have to rent a trailer though. So it wouldn't be real soon. I'm in between jobs as they say. It would be great to meet other roadie riders to learn about the bikes and to have other roadie fans to ride with.

I wish I could add pictures! I don't get the 800 limit. My phone takes much larger size than that. I'm not trying to get an editor and edit photos. I'm way to busy for that. Which is odd considering I am not even working.

Thanks for all the responses guys. I'm hoping for a miracle so I can get out on two again!


Oh I forgot its a new manifold too. Not ported. I'm trying to get her back to stock so I can do mods as I desire. The only mod at this point is the holes in the stage one.
 
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Re:New owner. Wishing it was better news 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
I actually bought it in GSP. It was a town to the south.
 
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Re:New owner. Wishing it was better news 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Updating fast and furious. Daddy wants to ride!

Pulled the plugs and checked for spark. And EHHHH. It has spark. But Ill admit, compared to videos I've seen they look like weak shots. How do I know if its my coils wires or plugs?
 
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Re:New owner. Wishing it was better news 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Have you tried it with the air cleaner on? Mine will run without it, but its a whole different animal with it.
 
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Re:New owner. Wishing it was better news 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
Marc76 wrote:
Updating fast and furious. Daddy wants to ride!

Pulled the plugs and checked for spark. And EHHHH. It has spark. But Ill admit, compared to videos I've seen they look like weak shots. How do I know if its my coils wires or plugs?


Spark is spark as far as eyeballing. If the plugs are clean, electrode square and gapped right, move on. On these dual fire coils, if one don't spark, neither is the other, and it's common for one to be stronger than the other due to the dual winding and how it affects discharge. Never crank it without a grounded plug on each lead. Good way to burn a winding.

You can check primary and secondary resistance if you want, but your issue is fuel/air, since it WILL run, albeit shitty right now.
 
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Re:New owner. Wishing it was better news 5 Months, 3 Weeks ago  
They are not clean is the problem. in the bigger update I mentioned that they are black and have an ever so slight moisture to them after only a ten minute warm up one day and the repeated attempts at carb adjustments. I'm not blowing smoke of any kind though so I am wondering if the spark cant ignite the mixture?

What I do know is that the carb is now about polished. its setings are not altering it in anyway. i've tryied 50 combinations and its not that it isn't fixing it, its that it isn't changing in any way. float high pms out same as float low pms out, pms in float in, pms out float down, every single thing I do to the carb changes nothing in any way. That's why I'm venturing away from it. I cant believe its the carb at this point. Not from everything I've read. Nobody has what I'm dealing with after a stage 1 exhaust mod. Everything about the bike is factory, and the carb is factory parts. factory settings. I'm now sitting at 2 1/2 pms 2mm below joint. Ive been above below in and out and its been exactly the same every time.

I'm on the verge of selling it to get the sanity back in my life and just wait to inherit my fathers bikes.
 
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