Re:DARK SIDE (car tire on my Road*)
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TOPIC: Re:DARK SIDE (car tire on my Road*)
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Re:DARK SIDE (car tire on my Road*) 3 Years, 7 Months ago
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Hey TopNotch. A 195 tire will fit but the narrow rim/wider tire causes a bit of high speed wobble. I'll paste a post below that I copied over at the Darksiders.
By the way, I have over a 1000 miles on a Kumho that I put on the rear of my Venture. Can't tell that it rides or handles any differently. The difference? Approx. 300lbs more load capacity, 1/3 of the cost of a M/C tire and 3 times the life.
"http://forums.delphiforums.com/DarkSiding/messages/?msg=563.1
Here on "Riding the Dark Side" we are trying to solve the Roadstar Wobblies. Your help will be appreciated. Over the years we have found that certain tires work on bikes, others just don't. Some bikes are forgiving and give us several choices, others don't. There are many Roadstars on the road, we will solve this problem, as we have solved others in the past.
We found there are 3 tires for example for the Suzuki LC 1500 that offer riders a choice of several different riding styles.
We have found there are 3 different tires that work well for the Star Liners with a choice of riding styles.
We haver found 1 tire and are working on another tire for the Star 1300T's.
1st of all let's point out that the DS tires on a Road* is in it's pioneer stages.
Lets's run with the facts we know:
1. The Roadie uses a very narrow rim.
2. There are no tires that are 195/60/16 or larger that DO NOT show signs of wobble on the Roadies. Even though there is room to mount the tire.
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4. 5. The DS tire requires a very sticky Frt tire such as the Pirelli MT66 @ 40#PSI (on most bikes) to match up with the DS tires. (Has anyone matched up this tire to your DS tire?)
6. My DS FAQ #2 states that we should use a DS tire that is no more than 15-25 mm wider than the OEM size, this limits us to the 185 MM wide tires as the widest we have had no wobblies.
7. 175 and 185 /75/16s on our Roadies. I have heard of no wobble problems.
8. The tires that are the most stable have a design that is similar to this a "V" pattern, or same on both sides of center.
9. The bikes that do not have wobbles have: windshields, lowers, and have not modified their suspensions, and are using the tires mentioned above.
10. The bikes that have probs are using a tire size 195/60/16 in either the Dunlop Sport 5000, the Turanza, or a Bridgestone Potenza (in 205/60/16)tire. FROM PAST EXPERIENCES WE KNOW THIS IS TOO LARGE (195/60/16 and larger) CAN CREATE A WOBBLE PROBLEM.
11. Some of the bikes having wobbles are using fairings, all are using a tire that is too wide..
So I ask you guys that are running them, what else is fact, not speculation?
This can be figured out. Any help will be appreciated.
Later, BIGFOOT" |
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Last Edit: 2008/10/29 14:17 By BigBoyinMS.
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Re:DARK SIDE (car tire on my Road*) 3 Years, 7 Months ago
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some people don't like ape hangers,some don't like 'em lowered,
same thing with cts.I like it, I have over 2,000 miles on mine.I ride it just as hard as I did the mc it works for me.I like the way it stops,I like the way it fills up the fender, and of course the life of the tire.I can see where it would not be for everyone.It does handle a bit different
and that might put some people off.Some guys have a wobble at higher speeds some at 85 some at 95 I have been 110 mph on mine at different times with no wobble at all.
Like I said its not for everyone do your own research and decide for yourself since you will be the one buying and riding it.
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Re:DARK SIDE (car tire on my Road*) 3 Years, 7 Months ago
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hookset1960  I'm really curious about this thread. I have a 12 month riding season and a 100 mile round trip commute every day. I understand everyones arugments on the subject, and to each his/her own. It's a decision that individuals make.
The one thing that I don't see addressed is What rims are the car tires going on?
Are guys with the spoked rims putting a tube inside the radial tire, or are they sealing the spoked rim and just putting the tire on?
Inquiring minds want to know.    |
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Re:DARK SIDE (car tire on my Road*) 3 Years, 7 Months ago
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bigboyinms, That was the thread I was looking for and couldn't find it. Thanks for posting it.
D J
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Re:DARK SIDE (car tire on my Road*) 3 Years, 7 Months ago
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iīm a bit concerned about this part from the article
. 5. The DS tire requires a very sticky Frt tire such as the Pirelli MT66 @ 40#PSI (on most bikes) to match up with the DS tires. (Has anyone matched up this tire to your DS tire?)
if this is a typing error fine, but if it isnīt, the bloke is an idiot.
an MT66 front at 40psi? what the hell is he thinking? o.k, the MT66 is a sticky tyre for a cruiser, but at 40psi the contact area is seriously reduced.
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Re:DARK SIDE (car tire on my Road*) 3 Years, 6 Months ago
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The guys with wire wheels are running tubes. Some may be sealing the wheels, but I'm not aware of it.
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Re:DARK SIDE (car tire on my Road*) 3 Years, 6 Months ago
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Unless you can change your own tire you might find it difficult to find someone that willing to do it. Just for the heck of it I stop by a motorcycle shop (not a dealer) and asked them if they would mount a car tire on my wheel. The owner said "NO." He cited liability as the reason.
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Re:DARK SIDE (car tire on my Road*) 3 Years, 6 Months ago
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N56629 wrote:
Unless you can change your own tire you might find it difficult to find someone that willing to do it. Just for the heck of it I stop by a motorcycle shop (not a dealer) and asked them if they would mount a car tire on my wheel. The owner said "NO." He cited liability as the reason.
iīve got a disclaimer guarded on my computer that i print off and get the customer to sign if i mount part worn tyres for them, but having said that, i wouldnīt mount a car tyre on a bike under any circumstances, disclaimer or not.
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Re:DARK SIDE (car tire on my Road*) 2 Years, 7 Months ago
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This is worth a laugh now. Darkside and loving it.
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Last Edit: 2009/10/19 23:13 By MS1700.
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Re:DARK SIDE (car tire on my Road*) 2 Years, 7 Months ago
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Betting you spent some time searching for this old post MS1700.
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Last Edit: 2009/10/20 02:24 By Gram.
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