walmart just over two bucks the cross reference tells you who makes em pretty reputable!st7317

http://www.tobycreek.org/oil_filters/napa.shtml

With a filter you worry more about a catastrophic failure than a failure over time. My Nephew had a BMW and darted into Wal Mart & figured what they hey shop and get oil change. About 2 miles later the engine blew, turned out a seal in the filter come loose and blocked the flow of oil. A mechanic discovered this and turned said filter over to lawyer who got him a new BMW no questions asked from Fram Just wanted filter to verify. This took 3 months, and that was 3 months no BMW.

The price of a good filter could be minimal. But people get away with marginal filters all the time. I'm not much into gambling.

Read link above, make your choice. I use a Amsoil Chrome for 8K miles with Amsoil Syn.
I'd use a K&N and maybe a Mobile one extended life Oil filter in a jam, But thats it fo rme.
I do spur of the moment long trips and adverse weather and riding conditions. Always ready.

MC

I just bought the K & P filter from Scotts. it works very well and sure looks fine, unlike anything else out there. Also Scotts offers a color different from anything on the K& P site, kind of a bluish silver that he says lightens some what with time. I'll try to get a picture up. I went with this due to my experiences in industrial fleets with filters, its huge flow rate, great looks. So far as cost goes you can compare it to anything else on our rides only this one serves a mechanical purpose. $139 bucks is nothing compared to buying a couple sets of nice pegs that do the exact same thingas what you just took off. Or how about a nice set of risers...ditto. So its not just a cost nor performance comparison its total value. Plus when it comes to my Roadie nothing is too god for it mechanically.

Thank you very much for the information and the link. Actually the link was very helpful to me - much appreciated.

i am really thinking about the k and p but is it a pain to clean?

I don't think it is I use dawn and rinse blow it out as directed. It also give you a picture into what's going on in your engine. A twist a toss you never really see. IMHO You can clean with other cleaners also. I've always gone with kiss Keep it Simple Stupid it's a fire service thing. Least toxic works use it if it needs more then go beyond.

Sure it takes a little longer for an oil change, but once you use this filter it's worth the time and effort.

It comes with it's own filter wrench easy on easy off and it looks great.

I use the K & N kn303 black filter with Mobile 1 synthetic. $12.59. Will try the Wally World filter on the next change.

i will probably do the k and p then...how long does it usually take to clean it, i figured id take it off and while bike is draining id rinse it out by the time im down the bike will be as dry as it could be

MS1700 wrote:
http://www.tobycreek.org/oil_filters/napa.shtml

With a filter you worry more about a catastrophic failure than a failure over time. My Nephew had a BMW and darted into Wal Mart & figured what they hey shop and get oil change. About 2 miles later the engine blew, turned out a seal in the filter come loose and blocked the flow of oil. A mechanic discovered this and turned said filter over to lawyer who got him a new BMW no questions asked from Fram Just wanted filter to verify. This took 3 months, and that was 3 months no BMW.

The price of a good filter could be minimal. But people get away with marginal filters all the time. I'm not much into gambling.

Read link above, make your choice. I use a Amsoil Chrome for 8K miles with Amsoil Syn.
I'd use a K&N and maybe a Mobile one extended life Oil filter in a jam, But thats it fo rme.
I do spur of the moment long trips and adverse weather and riding conditions. Always ready.

MC

Hmmm, do I want a new car or bike? Maybe I gotta give Fram another try.

Last two pictures in my album (link below) are of a K and P filter that I put on yesterday (I got it from Scotts Performance)

http://picasaweb.google.com/takehikes/BlackCherry#