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Re:Need Advice on Tools . . . 2 Years, 11 Months ago  
Craftsman is as good as any tool for most uses. I would just make sure to get their better line, not the import stuff.
 
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Re:Need Advice on Tools . . . 2 Years, 11 Months ago  
Some great points and info here guys .... why don't one of you boys do a thread with pics for us new comers here .....
 
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Re:Need Advice on Tools . . . 2 Years, 11 Months ago  
Like several others here, I turn wrenches for a living. I may not be working on bikes or cars, but I have a Snap-On tool in my hand most of the day. Craftsman tools are great if you have an outlet nearby. Like someone mentioned earlier, check some close by retailers for convenience. The cost of making decent tools has come down and more names are doing it. For a beginning wrencher, stick with 6 points. You are less apt to damage a bolt. Also, avoid the use of adjustable wrenches (Crescent). Believe it or not, there is a right way and a wrong way to use them. The better set of allens is priceless, the ball ends are icing.

Now for the flame attractant. You get what you pay for. Like I said, Craftsman fills my tool box at home, but my Snap-On collection is growing. All you have to do is take a metric bolt with you to the store. Put the bolt in the wrench or socket and see how it fits. The cheaper the tool, generally the looser the fit. The looser the fit, the more chance you have of rounding a bolt. If you have never rounded a bolt, a $10k bike isn't the place to learn (IMHO).

For your home box, start with the set of 6pt, the ratcheting ones came come later. Spend the money and get a couple of screwdrivers that fit your hand. If it doesn't feel right in the store, it will feel worse in the garage. A square shank or one that has the hex by the handle, will be your best friend at the right time (allows a wrench to be used for more leverage on stubborn screws). Several types of pliers will also be handy, ie needle nose, standard and slip joint (adjustable). Here again, the nicer ones won't feel like the handle is sloppy and will feel good in the hand. For sockets; deep and short, 6pt, variety of extensions and a u-joint. Once again, make sure the ratchet handle is comfortable.

For the bike, take the stock tool kit and match it with better quality. My tool bag is no longer under the seat because it got bigger, but I am more comfortable using the tools that I carry. You don't need to have a good spring pre-load wrench on the road, but everything else could be handy.

If you go to Home Depot or Lowes a lot, I prefer the Husky. Kobalt just doesn't feel right (the combo wrenches have thin handles that cut into your hand). Just be careful with the warranty. It isn't like Sears where you can just walk out with a new socket, at least not in this area.

Can you tell I get passionate about tools? Most Snap-On can't be beat, but Craftsman is the best value for the money and what I use on my bike.
 
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Re:Need Advice on Tools . . . 2 Years, 11 Months ago  
I did want to chime in again and tell you to look at Lowe's or Home Depot if you have one around and watch their tool sales, some times you can snag a good metric set for very little if you keep your eyes open. Never know.. also flea markets for cheap Craftsman tools, buy them and take em back for a trade in

I have been known to do that a time or two...
 
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Re:Need Advice on Tools . . . 2 Years, 11 Months ago  
Thanks a lot guys for all the tips and suggestions , you think this is a good deal ?? or should I just get everything separately ??


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Re:Need Advice on Tools . . . 2 Years, 11 Months ago  
when i first was thinking about building up my tool collection i was gonna go all out and get a mechanics tool set with 100 some odd tools but im kinda glad that i didnt

its always nice to have a crazy number of tools but the fact is that you just dont need them, grab yourself a good 3/8 ratchet and socket set with deep and shallow sockets...some extensions...a good set of regular old wrenches, may want to get a second set, more often than not i find myself using a wrench on one end and a ratcheting box end wrench on the other side...grab a torque wrench and some allen sockets, id say you can probably get away with about 150 in mix matched tools and have an awesome set of exactly what you need instead of what they think you need
 
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Re:Need Advice on Tools . . . 2 Years, 11 Months ago  
I have always thought that was the way to go, buying a set like that, you couldn't buy all that for $99 separately and you have a GREAT place to start from, you can buy the other tools you need when they are are on sale!
 
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Re:Need Advice on Tools . . . 2 Years, 11 Months ago  
Not sure what happened to the links, but I am sure you can cut and paste.

I'll second what silvasilv said. There don't appear to be enough wrenches, probably too many sockets (yes, I said it), and the screwdriver is a personal thing (I don't like that type). Most of those sets will have half or better standard items versus metric. I am assuming a few things with my replies:You have no tools right now, you only want to wrench on the Star, you don't want to spend a ton but you want good tools. If you are going to get in to different things, a big set would be a nice start, but you will augment it soon and often. I got the big set and did exactly the same thing. Now that I have three Japanese vehicles, my standard tools only get used on the boat motor.

Just my opinion, but you will be spending more cash very soon with that kit.

Here is a set of wrenches, but don't buy these. You can find a similar set much cheaper (Home Depot?)
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00950086000P?vName=Tools&cName=Hand+Tools%2C+General+Purpose&sName=Pliers

Oh yeah, more doesn't mean better. Yeah it looks impressive to buy a 1,000 piece set for $100, but 950 of those pieces are allen wrenches and insert bits.

Screwdrivers. Not the best quality, but good bang for the buck. As you use them, you can replace the most often used size with better quality. Notice the square shank on the slotted.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00947155000P?vName=Tools&cName=Hand+Tools%2C+General+Purpose&sName=Screwdrivers

Hex. The first one is to get started, the second will make life easier down the road.

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00946755000P?vName=Tools&cName=Hand+Tools%2C+General+Purpose&sName=Hex+Keys
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00942607000P?vName=Tools&cName=Hand+Tools%2C+General+Purpose&sName=Sockets

For sockets, go to the store and find the metric sets. Get a short set, a long set, a ratchet handle, and an accessory kit with three different extensions and a u-joint.

Long post short, you may spend the same amount, but the quality will be better and you will have what you need. If you don't have a tool box yet, buy larger than you need. Don't try to fill it intentionally, it will happen on its own. Socket rails are your best friend. It sucks digging through a drawer to find the one 10mm socket you have left.

Good luck, I gotta go ride.
 
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Re:Need Advice on Tools . . . 2 Years, 11 Months ago  
I agree with pretty much everything that shadow has been suggesting.

Bottom line is to start with a reasonably good set of the OEM tool pouch tools and expand slowly from their. With the OEM tools you can take most of the bike apart .... the rest of them are for ease of use or on-offs.

I use my large crescent wrench quite a bit for the axle bolts but you need to get a good one. The cheap ones don't 'grab' the bolt properly and in the end cause rounding.

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Re:Need Advice on Tools . . . 2 Years, 11 Months ago  
I been collecting tools for 50 years, only problem is you end up with so many you forget what you have and even if you remember it you can't find it.... Good luck in you tool quest Loko...
 
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