newroadie wrote:
Removed the pump, did all of the mods, valve seat - fuel cap - filter, and had fuel starving problems when running over 70-80 with less than half a tank of gas. It happened several times, once when passing cars on a two lane. That was the last time.

Moved the pump to under the right side cover, choke knob on left side tank bolt. No ugly fuel pump showing and no fuel starving.

I wonder if it was your filter that caused the starvation I've been over a hundred nearing fumes and no problem. I wasn't running an inline filter. They do make a high flow filter and everyone who seems to have that problem has a filter in line. Just curious glad I'm no a cat

vwtechO,
I removed the electric fuel pump 75,000 miles back.
No modifications. All I added was the following:
FP7187, FUEL PUMP ROUND BRACKET MOUNT, $18.66
I purchased the item from SMART Recreational Parts.
This set up has been trouble free. The bike runs like a scalded rabbit.
If you have any othe questions, do not hesitate to contact me.

W: robert.flores@lackland.af.mil
H: roughriders@hctc.net

Good Luck!!

DO IT!!! It's one less mechanical item to worry about and it cleans up the left side of the engine. I'll start at the top: vent your fuel cap well, check and clean your stock fuel valve or order a Pingle like I did, get a high flow filter (Pingle as well), 1/4" fuel line is fine but run it below the intake manifold, take out the small filter in the fuel inlet of the carb (huge restriction), use the 2.5mm fuel valve, it is IMPARITIVE that you set the fuel float level correctly (if you do this you don't need a new fuel valve) USE THE ODO METHOD. If you do all this and get it dialed in right it will be fine without a vacume pump, at least mine has. At least 42mpg as well.

vwtech0 wrote:
Ok. I've read the tech topic several times. But in the tech topic, It states to change the seat, but it doesn't mention a new needle. My question is: Whoever had problems with going pumpless, did you replace the needle as well? Did anyone have problems the replaced the needle?new needle come w/the orriface(seat)

Hey guys,
long time no speak, been "very" busy!

I always thought about removing my fuel pump
but after what i went through tonight, i think
i have no choice! I was riding back home from
work on the highway like "Goggles Pizzano" when
all of a sudden my bike just stalled on me for no
apparent reason Well the reason was my fuel
pump stopped doing it's job. So here i am stuck on
"The Metropolitan", which by the way has no emergency
shoulder rigs are blowing by me, cars are honking
at me, all the while trying desperately to start my bike...
After trying a couple things to no avail, i resorted to
punching the crap out of the pump until it started! It did!
but stalled right away... more punching, but only this time
with some swearing in between the punches, it finally started
up again, I bolted off and managed to get off the highway without
a scratch...I finally got me and the bike home but only after a
few more stalls, not as scary though, i used side streets.

Did this ever happen to any of you, ...the pump just dying i mean?

...so i guess the question is now, to vacuum or not to vacuum...?

Schism,

Like so many of these other guys... I just eliminated the pump. Found the smallest in-line filter at Autozone. Ran the line just over the intake, with the filter in line just before it went over the intake and down to the carb inlet tube. Cut the main fuel feed tube in the petcock down by 1/2 inch, and the results have been just great.

I didn't have to do any of the other little mods. I'm thoroughly pleased with the results... wanna buy my fuel pump?

Most everyone that has done the removal and not had issues, ran the line below the intake and the ones that use a fuel filter, use a high flow filter.

Makcap wrote:
Works great 3 years no problem stock petcock is fine unless you go to 42 or 45 carb.

Been running the 42hsr for 2yrs with stock petcock, gas cap vented and rollover disabled. No fuel filter, between the screen in the petcock and screen in carb inlet, have had no issues of dirt nor starvation.

Erb,

I considered the same thing. When I was doing the mod, I first went with no filter for the very same reasons... fine mesh screen in the petcock, and in the carb inlet tube... why go with a filter at all?

But then, I had a small one that I could put in the line, and it remained well hidden when the line went over the intake, so I said... Aw, heck, why not? It's there. It works. And, I have that one added bit of extra peace of mind.

But, if you want to run with no filter... don't see why you can't! It would appear to be somewhat redundant.

Ok guys, i think you've convinced me...

So what you guys are saying is, lose the fuel pump
and no need for a vacuum pump as well, right?

From what i understood, i use a 1/4" rubber gas line
to replace the fuel pump and connect it to the stock
petcock and then to the carburetor, with a inline fuel
filter in between... ???

Can someone please explain to me what i will need, as far as
materials go, to do the job and the time involved more or less?

Do any of you guys have step by step pictures of your work?

Your help is very much appreciated.

Thanks