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No Spark 3 and 4 3 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
HELP! I traced the issues with getting this project on track to the ignition module. I bought a new DYNA3000 and got everything re-installed. Now I have spark in the 1 and 2 plug, but no spark in the 3 and 4. I checked the coil and have continuity, but no spark at the plug end. Any ideas? This is the ONLY issue I have before I can finally call this build complete. It's been a year and a half since I have ridden this bike and I am dying to get it on the road.
 
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Re:No Spark 3 and 4 3 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
I'm taking it 3&4 are the rear did you try switching cables to plugs you can also flop the coil. Just suggestion. I would guess you check connectors over already
 
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Re:No Spark 3 and 4 3 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
3 and 4 are the right side...
 
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Re:No Spark 3 and 4 3 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
Sorry for last post...3 and 4 are the font cylinder...
 
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Re:No Spark 3 and 4 3 Weeks, 6 Days ago  
With the ignition switch on are the feed wires 'hot' from the ignition module?
 
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Re:No Spark 3 and 4 3 Weeks, 4 Days ago  
RayJay, if you are talking about the two feeding the coils?.?.?then, yes! They're hot when the iginition is on.

Some how, when I tore the bike down I created a problem somewhere when I was re-installing the electrics and swicthing over to HD controls. Either that or my original ignition module was going bad before the build and when I changed the controls over the HD, the module created other problems as it went down.

When the problem first came up, I followed the manual for ignition trouble shooting. I metered every wire, switch, and connector for continuity/resistance. When everything hit as it should, the manual indicated that the ignition module is bad. I bought a Dyna3000 and installed everything once more. Then I checked for spark by inserting a testor into the plug socket at the end of the plug wires. When I pushed the starter button to cycle the motor (no gas...don't want it to start yet), the 1 & 2 wires showed power as the engine cycled through those cylinders; 3 & 4 showed nothing....

I have been working on this bike for over a year.
 
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Re:No Spark 3 and 4 3 Weeks, 4 Days ago  
It sounds like you may have a problem with the Dyna 3000 not sending a signal to the coil.

Is there a trouble shooting manual that came with yours?

I would contact them and find out how to trouble shoot the unit for your issue. They may want you to return it for evaluation.

Dynatek
 
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Re:No Spark 3 and 4 3 Weeks, 3 Days ago  
Good times...I charged the battery, turned the key on, checked to see if all four feeds to the coil were hot. Yes. I then pulled each plug wire and inserted a testor probe into the socket while I hit the starter and cycled the engine. All are giving signal, now! However, the right side cylinders are indicated a negative/ground signal(green light on the testor), while the left side are indicating a positive/hot signal (red light on the indicator). I'm not sure, but shouldn't all four be hot?
 
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Re:No Spark 3 and 4 3 Weeks, 3 Days ago  
Checked the Service Manual: There is no indication what the charge is on each plug wire whether pos or neg.

The only *hot* test is where a spark tool is inserted on the plug and into the stock plug cap. The spark length is measured and checked against a chart.

I would think that the charge would be the same with both coil wires. How would a coil discharging through two wires show both pos and neg? They must be on separate circuits inside the coil(?).

Don't you have Dyna coils? Ask them. Dynatek

This is a new one to me.
 
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Re:No Spark 3 and 4 3 Weeks, 3 Days ago  
I think you're right about sepreate circuits in the coil because I get spark on those plugs. Left coil is strong and gives signal every revolution. The right coil is weak and hits every fourth revolution. I switched them to verify and the result is the same. I have one coil that appears weak and the other is strong. I think I have a bad coil. Anyone got a recommendation for good aftermarket coils? I figure I might as well go all out and upgrade those too.
 
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