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Camshaft.... 1 Year, 11 Months ago  
I have big problem. Two days ago I open camshaft and now I cant adjust it... Is there any diverents betwin RS 1,6 and 1,7?
When I put it back to gether I havent god compression... Valvez opens at wrong time how to adjust it??
 
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Re:Camshaft.... 1 Year, 11 Months ago  
I don't think you are clear as to what you did? did you open the cams or are you talking about the push rods? I have not done so, but from what I can remember from other write up there is a difference in the lengths of the push rods on the 1700 engine rear cylinder vs the 1600 engine. Also I'm sure that I heard mention that the picture in the service manual is wrong about the placement of the push rods. Sorry I can't be of more help, I'm sure someone will get on here and be able to point you in the right direction.

here are links to service manual, for the 1600 you just need the manual, for the 1700 you need both manual and the supplement

http://www.paulmilner.com/yamaha/handbuch/service_manual_1602_082008.pdf

http://www.paulmilner.com/yamaha/handbuch/04_supplement.pdf
 
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Re:Camshaft.... 1 Year, 11 Months ago  
J know that the pushroads in 1700 are diferent that in 1600. One is longer. Yamaha sads that longer pushroad in 1700 is the same like in 1600. Its not true... In 1600 every one are longer...
I open crank case and put out everything.
I found this http://roadstarclinic.com/content/view/211/104/1/2/ but when I make every steps like in this article in cylinders is no compresion at oll... I thont understand why... Is in 1600 are diferent cams than in 1700/
Is there any posibility to damage rear cylinder camshaft? Is it made by one pice of still?
 
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Re:Camshaft.... 1 Year, 11 Months ago  
Sorry, but I can't really be of much help on the internals of the engine, never got into that area, just what I read on other posts. I'm more proficient with carbs and electrical to some extent. I'm sure someone will be able to help though. give it a bit, most are probably working now.
 
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Re:Camshaft.... 1 Year, 11 Months ago  
It sounds like your pushrods are crossed. The lifters are inboard and outboard, but I don't remember which one goes to the intake and which to the exhaust.

I would have to consult the service manual to tell you, and I am not home.

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Re:Camshaft.... 1 Year, 11 Months ago  
The picture on Page 5-15 shows the incorrect placement of the rods on the front cylinder; they should be reversed. The pictures on Page 5-25 are correct.

The intake pushrods go to the front lifters; the exhaust pushrods go to the back lifters.

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Re:Camshaft.... 1 Year, 11 Months ago  
Doc I know how pushroads shoud be adjust in lifters... I found problem... The rear crankshaft is damage... some times works ok but in middle temperature of engine its hange position... I know it souds lika farytail but its true...
My friend hawe the same problem with his 17... Its loks like SVS but when engine stop working when You try start it again it look like in cylinders is no compression.
Crankchaft its made by few pieces...
 
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Re:Camshaft.... 1 Year, 11 Months ago  
Do you mean rear cam shaft? If you had to replace lifters it's avery good chance the cams need to be replaced.
 
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Re:Camshaft.... 1 Year, 11 Months ago  
Yes I think that rear camshaft is damage. Have any one had fotos of camshafts? I cant faound another one to check bouth of them,so I dodnt know is my camshaft is ok or damage. If some one have crnks and can make fotos of them please send me on wykrzyknik1@o2.pl
 
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Re:Camshaft.... 1 Year, 11 Months ago  
Not very good but look here .. Cams

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