Doc_V wrote:
HotRodStar-
You make some interesting points. I doubt anyone will disagree, Yamaha *should* have fixed the problem by now. However, in my case, I happen to own the 54th Roadie to roll off the production line, so I suppose they can be forgiven for that one.
As for the Barnett, I don't think anyone has disputed the effectiveness. I'm pretty confident in saying, "you want a Roadie clutch spring with no issues, get the Barnett." Truth be told, there was a time when I wouldn't not have thought twice and just gone with the Barnett, however, times are tight. [That and there's also a little bit of laziness involved.] The overall cost of installing the Speedstar clutch is about half that of the Barnett. For me, that carries a lot of weight these days. And of course it's easier to install. [Hence the laziness.] I'm aware I may be throwing good money after bad and there's potential I may be forced to make the upgrade to the Barnett later, but I'm willing to take that gamble. It's an inherent personality flaw of mine, I tend to take chances... 
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Doc,Boy it seems we kinda ruffled some feathers here trying to suggest a diff alt type clutch spring setup other then the Barnett/LOL!!!!,wasn't looking to do that at all!
I got the same heat/resistance 1.5-2yrs ago when trying to get some of guys here in RSC to realize running non bike specific oil in thier R* with low zddp lvl could be a problem for the R*'s FT cam/lifters and someguys got a little bent outta shape not beliveing it was an issue.
But your reasoning & why you decided to give the speedstart spring a try is basically why i bothered to get the Speedstar spring for when the weaker stock spring gives up in my bike.
I figured since the speedstar spring is (SUPPOSEDLY) 20-25% stronger then the stock
Yami clutch spring that it would do the trick while also being a plug & play install at a lower cost which i feel should by all accounts hold just fine being up to 255 stronger for stock to mildy moded R*'s without hi comp pistons,hotter cams ,NOS,etc.
Now that's as long as the original clutch plates arent all burnt up from running the bike too long with a slipping clutch with a worn out stock clutch spring before swapping to a new/stronger speedstar spring.
I do realize it's putting a little $$ back in Yami's pocket buying the speedstar spring when yami should have upgraded to it yrs back.
But you know what ,i am pretty busy much of the time so using more of my time & having a little more to deal with on insall of a new clutch spring is worth $$ to me too. And as you said using the stronger hi perf speedstar clutch spring is an easier/faster fix then going with aftermarket rep setup which i also thought too. Not that the barnett setup is all that complicated but it is a little more involved,thats for sure.
Like you i am also willing to chance using the stronger speedstar spring when the stock one fails,i don't feel it's that much of chance/bad decision in this case when the speedstar spring has 20-255 more holding/claping force then the stock spring does in the 1st place. The weaker stock clutch spring in my 06 is still holding just fine with no slippage at 14k miles riding 2 up with bike loaded & tall windscreen when i get into it hard going thru the gears,my bike also has pipes & tweaked
carb too.
I feel the stronger Yami Speedstar clutch spring has to do better with the 20-25% additional clamping force it has over stock clutch spring greatly reducing the chance it will fail again/get weak leading to clutch slippage. And even if it did weaken over time loosing the additonal 20-25% additonal clamping force/strength it has then in that weakened state it would roughly = the clamping force of a brand new stock yami clutch spring and the stock springd isnt known to slip when bran new so the clutch would not slip if the pseedstar clutch spring was to also weaken a bit over time/miles due to it's design being same as the weaker stock spring.
But theres absoulutely nothing wrong with at all going with the hi quality Barnett clutch PP/Spring setup for the R* either thats already proven to be reliable in the R*.
You can't go wrong with the Barnett seto & dont know why people were taking it as we didnt like the barnett setup or thought it wasn't worth the $$$ etc,that wasnt where i was comming from & from what i saw you either.
Anyway,good luck with the install and let us know how much stiffer the clutch pull seesm to be and how the new spring holds when you get into it thru the gears.
You will be the 2nd person (that i am aware of!) to install the HD speedstar clutch sping here in RSC so it will nice to get your opinion/1st hand exp with it which i hope will be positive or i/we will be looking bad with plenty of " I TOLD YA SO'S " /LOL!!!!
Scott
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see ya. 
