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Re:Which clutch? ...Yamaha, Barnett, EBC or other?
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Re:Which clutch? ...Yamaha, Barnett, EBC or other? 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
 
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Re:Which clutch? ...Yamaha, Barnett, EBC or other? 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
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Well all I know is........... Makcap helped me re do mine and the results are Zero slip. Burnett Basket, Great, use the right tool to tighten because if no, I think I bought the last extra one in the country. My helper forgot the tool at home and i could not wait, well, I waited another week. He has another secret I don't think he's disclosing. and I can't tell either. But I would imagine it alone would cure any clutch slip even factory.

I tried the Heavy duty Speedstar. I have one and I also have a good factory spring. If anyone wants to waste your money you can make me an offer. It's well stored in my junk box. Total waste of money. Absolutely no difference from the stock clutch beside being harder to pull.

Burnett with the new friction plates, Makcap's little secret, and total lock up.

Caution though, I think they allow slip for a reason, once you obtain true and total lock up, a little modification in your riding technique is in order as there is absolutely no forgiving being lazy about pulling the clutch.

And that freezer bag trick is Waaayyyyyy too cool! Wow!

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MS1700,No disrespect intended as i know your a good bike wrench but what you posted doesnt seem add up.

As you just stated the speedstar clutch spring does in fact have more tension that makes the clutch harder to disenguage like you experienced because in fact it's a 20-25% stronger cltuch spring which make sence.

With that said you fell short of saying you actually tried a brand new HD speedstar spring (not a stock spring) but said it basically sucks so i was wondering if you did in fact try the HD speedstar spring along with new clutch plates and had it slip in a stock or mildly moded R* & thats why your so negative on using it that HD speedstar clutch spring with 20-25% more clamping force?

Just asking because you had such a bad /neagtive reaction to even using it but never said you actually tried it either.

I dont see how a brand HD hi perf spreedstar spring with either 20% or 25% additonal clamping force would slip when a stock yami clutch spring with 20-25% less holding/clamping force
doesnt slip when its brand new in a stock or mildly moded R* (No hi comp pistons or hot cams) & or at least for at least 8k-10 miles or more in some cases with stock motor and normal riding not overlly agressive riding style.

BTW,My 06 has almost 15k miles on it with pipes & original stock weak clutch spring and i can speed shift it holding throttle wide open and the clutch still grabs just fine riding 2 up with bags loaded not that its really going anywhere fast which we all know it aint!!!/LOL!!!!

But i realize its a matter of miles/time before the original clutch spring bites the dust.

Heck,my 33 yr old original kawi 1000 with 700cc less cam blow the R* in the weeds and it gets 52mpg riding 2 up too but isnt as comfy as the R* is which is why i bought the R*.

But it just doesnt make sence that a clutch spring with 20-25% more clamping/holding force then stock clutch spring would be NG as you suggest and slip etc espcially whe its brand new.

Scott
 
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Re:Which clutch? ...Yamaha, Barnett, EBC or other? 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
Actually a part number would be useful since they make three different Competition Clutch Springs, Stage II, III and IV. You also said it was for the Warrior, *not* the Roadie? Was it a stock Warrior spring? I know some people say the Warrior spring is supposed to be stronger than the stock Roadie spring, but that's not the same as the Speedstar Competition Springs.

Thanks for the input.
 
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Re:Which clutch? ...Yamaha, Barnett, EBC or other? 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
I just replaced the clutch and spring in my `06 Silverado this past summer. I went with the stock clutch plates and the Speedstar Competition Clutch Spring ( part # SPD-4WM09-84-10 ).

Yes, it is stiffer. And no, it doesn't slip.

My Roadstar is factory stock.... just like it came out of the crate ( except for a few more pieces of chrome here and there )

 
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Re:Which clutch? ...Yamaha, Barnett, EBC or other? 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
MikelJay wrote:
I just replaced the clutch and spring in my `06 Silverado this past summer. I went with the stock clutch plates and the Speedstar Competition Clutch Spring ( part # SPD-4WM09-84-10 ).

Yes, it is stiffer. And no, it doesn't slip.

My Roadstar is factory stock.... just like it came out of the crate ( except for a few more pieces of chrome here and there )


That's the one I just ordered, it's the Stage IV which is supposed to have 25% more pressure. $85 From Yamaha Parts Plaza in Oregon if anyone's interested. In fact, they had the best prices on all OEM Yamaha parts of any other source I could find.
 
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Re:Which clutch? ...Yamaha, Barnett, EBC or other? 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
"No good deed goes unpunished"
 
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Re:Which clutch? ...Yamaha, Barnett, EBC or other? 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
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MS1700,No disrespect intended as i know your a good bike wrench but what you posted doesnt seem add up.

No disrespect intended to you either but why does it seem like you feel the need to shove your opinion down our throats? your way is not the only way to do things.

I am not trying to pick a fight but you do come on really strong.
And yes I think that you are very helpful, but you don't have to brow beat us we aren't children
 
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Re:Which clutch? ...Yamaha, Barnett, EBC or other? 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
MS1700 wrote:
Another experience here that makes my mother right again,
"No good deed goes unpunished"


Just stop being a martyr here. Its hard to "tell" exactly the TONE of a post.

You assume you are being flamed. My guess, just being questioned.

And you are the god given authority for you and anyone else you work on that likes your work. Most people believe what they want and propagandize it to kingdom come and get offended anytime someone questions or fires back... evidently you aren't any different from anyone else here with strong opinions. (Myself included)

Cheers!
 
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Re:Which clutch? ...Yamaha, Barnett, EBC or other? 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
Forgive me, the speedstar is a great clutch spring I have one for $50 with like new clutch plates and one spanking new basket plate. Great set up everyone get one, My mistake. You can also have my perfectly good old stock spring and a brand new gasket for the cover. I think that was $28 alone.

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Re:Which clutch? ...Yamaha, Barnett, EBC or other? 1 Year, 4 Months ago  
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Forgive me, the speedstar is a great clutch spring I have one for $50 with like new clutch plates and one spanking new basket plate. Great set up everyone get one, My mistake. You can also have my perfectly good old stock spring and a brand new gasket for the cover. I think that was $28 alone.

Just PM me.
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