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Re:When did Yamaha intoduce the R* ? 1 Year, 2 Months ago
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this may start a huge arguement so i ask everyone to please be civil but what makes harley such a icon? they arent the most American bike out there, victory is. is it the whole the "it's what the 1%ers ride" thing? and what make them so speicial that any given bike seems to hold its value forever c'mon a 10 year old bike for $5000 less than a new bike with all the modern tech of the same model that makes no sence for the buyer of the used bike let me say that i love the look of there bikes and im sure they are good quality and i wouldn't mind owning one but imo they are highly overrated and souldn't be put on a golden stool Nostalgia?
One could ask the same questions about people that only buy Chevy, or Ford, or Dodge (or any other make for that matter). Some people just like what they like.
I have not met a Harley rider that refused to ride with me because I don't own one. Have they given me crap for it? Sure, but I can dish it right back.
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Re:When did Yamaha intoduce the R* ? 1 Year, 2 Months ago
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Well, Harley dates back to 1903 and it’s a long story with many ups and downs and you americans should be proud of this iconic company. 
The nippon manufacturers, especially Yamaha, copied many Milwaukee designs over the years, and with great succes I might ad, but all this began to change recently when Yamaha introduced the chopper style 1900cc, 101hp Raider in 2008, this bike is unique and has a soul of it’s own and it’s one of the best V-Twin on the market. 
With gazilions of models out there, people these days want more than Milwaukee copies and more for their bucks and Yamaha is beginning to understand this very well. Don’t get me wrong here, I’m crazy about the Roadie  but we must all admit it’s neanderthal technology!
Most of my friends owns recent Harleys, TC88, TC96 and they don’t have any issues whatsoever with their ride. Oil leakage, trany problems, twisting frame and bad handling is a thing of the past, whether one agrees or not!
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Re:When did Yamaha intoduce the R* ? 1 Year, 2 Months ago
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smokescreens wrote:
99 is the first year and if i would compare it to harley i would say it yamaha version of the softtail+1!
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Well, Harley dates back to 1903 and it’s a long story with many ups and downs and you americans should be proud of this iconic company.
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Most of my friends owns recent Harleys, TC88, TC96 and they don’t have any issues whatsoever with their ride. Oil leakage, trany problems, twisting frame and bad handling is a thing of the past, whether one agrees or not!  I am, and I do agree.
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Re:When did Yamaha intoduce the R* ? 1 Year, 2 Months ago
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Questcap wrote:
If I may just post a recent study of mine fwiw
I dig you, quest, and I agree with your calculations, but you're 
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It looks to me like the Road Star is a Fatboy clone. Personally, I like Harley alot, but they are priced too far out of my budget and the Harley-Davidson merchandising culture is too over the top for me. I can see why people go for HD bikes, just like they go for iconic American cars like the Camaro and Mustang- they exude "coolness".
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Re:When did Yamaha intoduce the R* ? 1 Year, 2 Months ago
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ROADGRABBER wrote:
Well, Harley dates back to 1903 and it’s a long story with many ups and downs and you americans should be proud of this iconic company.
The nippon manufacturers, especially Yamaha, copied many Milwaukee design over the years, and with great succes I might ad, but all this began to change recently when Yamaha introduced the chopperesque 1900cc, 101hp Raider in 2008, this bike is unique and has a soul of it’s own and it’s one of the best V-Twin on the market.
With gazilions of models out there, people these days want more than Milwaukee copies and more for their bucks and Yamaha is beginning to understand this very well. Don’t get me wrong here, I’m crazy about the Roadie but we must all admit it’s neanderthal technology!
Most of my friends owns recent Harleys, TC88, TC96 and they don’t have any issues whatsoever with their ride. Oil leakage, trany problems, twisting frame and bad handling is a thing of the past, whether one agrees or not!
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While I do like the Raider it's hard to ignore the Night Train characteristics. And Harleys have been just as reliable as our bikes since the year 2000AD (Questcap)
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Re:When did Yamaha intoduce the R* ? 1 Year, 2 Months ago
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ROADGRABBER wrote:
The Roadie is a softail alright like the Fat Boy but I would lean more towards the Heritage Softail Classic, the look is very similar, they’re like twins. 
My 2¢
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I agree that they look like a Heritage Softail Classic.
I currently have a R*, a V* and a Sport*...I mean Sportster. When I bought the Sportster it was for a project and I love it. It's not at all comparable to the either of the Yamahas nor is it meant to be. It's a FUN FUN bike, but it isn't comfortable.
When I bought it I had people (2) seriously ask me "Since you got a Harley are you going to get rid of the R* now?". It shows me what little they know about these bikes and that they believe that the Harley name makes anything better. I told them "No, I like to ride, so I'll keep the Yamaha for riding and have the Harley to work on because it will always need something." Their faces made it worth it.
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Re:When did Yamaha intoduce the R* ? 1 Year, 2 Months ago
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i do beleive that the road king that the r* was modeled after was 96-98 but the road king came out in 94 so there are 5 years to check.
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Re:When did Yamaha intoduce the R* ? 1 Year, 2 Months ago
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Both the Fat Boy & Heritage Softail Deluxe is exactly the same bike but with different dressing!
Love the Raider’s technology but in Canada it goes near the 20,000$ mark, so people turn to the HD softail family instead. You can get a FB for 17,500$ and a HSC for 18,500$ while the RS Silverado sells for 19,200$.
I have often heard neophytes say, my first bike will be a Harley for sure! Just to show you how strong the iconic HD culture is! This mentality is widely spread where I live, almost 85% are Harleys 
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