if they dont approve this I would suggest we then need to end Medicare since only one group is "given" it and not all citizens.
Interestingly enough a huge majority supports all ages having Medicare. why? well it's "free"....LOL
Everybody loves free, .....as long as somebody else is footing the bill.
My mom was busy tithing to her church, and a couple of other organizations religiously affiliated. I told her she didn't have an income, and that I didn't think a tithe was needed considering she's living on charity(and was running out of money to pay her monthly bills).
She said "I do to have income"....."Social Security". I asked her if she didn't think she'd long ago drawn out more then she'd ever paid in....she's 92.
I tried to point out to her, that if she spent all of her money trying to play Mommy BigBucks, her children were going to have to start footing the bill, where her savings and investment interest and SS stopped. I told her she was using Obamanomics(that went over well).
I think she still believes she has an income, and, isn't on charity. It's interesting, how as soon as the government gives you an "entitlement". It's yours. You should get it every month, regardless of whether or not you paid in, as much as you get out(as with SS and Medicare), or, if your simply getting a handout, and haven't paid a red cent into the system anywhere at anytime.
The numbers regarding how much a person actually paid in before the 80's, and has drawn out, verses how much the average person pays in now, and can eventually draw out is startling. I wish I'd of saved the link.
I saw a graph the other day, when the CBO came out with the new estimates that doubled the cost of Obamacare. Based on the new estimates, in just about 10 or 15 years, the money needed to just pay for Obamacare, consumed our entire projected tax revenues for the year.
Nothing else got paid, it all went to service Obamacare. It is the Baby Boomers coming of age.
To answer the thought on medicare. Yeah, it's time for some serious debates about how to turn the clock back. The pols on both sides are scrambling to figure out how to save anything. Obamacare wasn't going to do anything but sweep it out of sight for awhile.
Even though we have the technology, and the werewithall to prolong anybodies life, the time has come for us to decide whether using somebody else's money to do it, is acceptable. Why should somebody else pay for my HC
? Why should I get to squander millions of dollars trying to extend my life a few more years. If I can afford it(not in the form of a government program), fine. Otherwise, "that's life".
We started buying my moms meds from canada. She can pay for them, and spend less, then if she went through the insurance, and tried to get out of the donut hole by buying locally, so it'd be deductible.
She still maintains a prescription drug policy, just in case something serious comes along. She can pay for the policy, buy her meds outright, never turn the receipts into the insurance company, and still have more money, then when she was trying to do everything through the insurance company.
I had a arthroscopic surgery on my knee a year or so ago, and paid cash after negotiating with the surgery center, and doctor. I paid .40 cents on the dollar compared to what the same surgery would have cost with insurance.
It's insurance that drives cost up. Obamacare will be no different, except that what you get, will be determined by somebody else. It will drive the prices up, and the quality down. You'll be able to get cheap care of some kind, but I doubt very many will want it. Those who can afford it, will opt for something better, and the bureaucracy will bloom and thrive.