Re:I have gone to the Darkside...
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Re:I have gone to the Darkside... 1 Year ago
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pjmcd1985 wrote:
Works with spoked wheels as well?
Yup....you use a tube....or you could seal yor rim. I use a tube.
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Re:I have gone to the Darkside... 1 Year ago
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TReynolds wrote:
Pirelli RT66 150/80/16 rear tire on Front at 40 psi
Austone tire 175SR16 on rear at 38 psi
No modifications for fitment
Hand mounted both tires and installed myself (Cast Wheels). Front tire seated at 45 psi, Rear tire seated at 50 psi.
Thanks to SmokinJoe and all his help and input in my research.
I got both tires mounted this weekend. I still think it is a miracle that the Pirelli fits, it is huge and looks fantastic! Took the bike out and I love the way it rides. I am currently at 38 psi in the rear and 40 psi in the front. After a little ride time (~100 Miles), I took it out on the highway and slowly worked the bike up to 90 mph to see if any wobbles deveioped and it was perfect all the way up, solid as a rock! I am using Ride-On in both tires (12 oz in front, 16 oz in rear) so I don't know if that helped or not. I took the bike into the hills and it corners even better than before and feels extremly hooked up in the corners not to mention how the back end really feels smooth when I do hit a bump.
The only two things that is notably different is that 1) the front tire does want to upright the bike more quickly at medium high speed turns (gyroscopic effect) and you can feel the steering become slightly more solid because of the extra amount of weight and size of that big thing spinning up front, not a bad thing just different. 2) Another thing is that the rear braking pressure required has decreased probably 50 %. Where I used to sometimes lock up the rear wheel slightly it now just stops or slows down more quickly with out the rear locking up. I have previously practiced many emergency full speed stops and tried again with the new setup and the bike now stops in significantly less distance, something close to 20% faster on the same drills, in the same parking lot, so I now how much quicker it is actually stopping.
Over all it is a great modification.
Thanks for all your help and input in my Darkside Transformation.
Wow- Great information and thourogh review! I, too, am very interested in making the change and this type of post is extremely helpful. Thanks!
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Re:I have gone to the Darkside... 1 Year ago
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I have been thinking seriously about doing the CT thing... my thing is with the Austone 175/16, is just how tall is that tire? when I let the air out of my air ride, would I scrub the tire? Those are my dilemma's... I do let the air out and ride (Hence the name GRINDER) but I dont want to rub the tire on the fender or subframe... if I can get it to not rub all the way down, I will go to the darkside...
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Re:I have gone to the Darkside... 1 Year ago
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TReynolds wrote:
Pirelli RT66 150/80/16 rear tire on Front at 40 psi
Austone tire 175SR16 on rear at 38 psi
No modifications for fitment
Hand mounted both tires and installed myself (Cast Wheels). Front tire seated at 45 psi, Rear tire seated at 50 psi.
Thanks to SmokinJoe and all his help and input in my research.
I got both tires mounted this weekend. I still think it is a miracle that the Pirelli fits, it is huge and looks fantastic! Took the bike out and I love the way it rides. I am currently at 38 psi in the rear and 40 psi in the front. After a little ride time (~100 Miles), I took it out on the highway and slowly worked the bike up to 90 mph to see if any wobbles deveioped and it was perfect all the way up, solid as a rock! I am using Ride-On in both tires (12 oz in front, 16 oz in rear) so I don't know if that helped or not. I took the bike into the hills and it corners even better than before and feels extremly hooked up in the corners not to mention how the back end really feels smooth when I do hit a bump.
The only two things that is notably different is that 1) the front tire does want to upright the bike more quickly at medium high speed turns (gyroscopic effect) and you can feel the steering become slightly more solid because of the extra amount of weight and size of that big thing spinning up front, not a bad thing just different. 2) Another thing is that the rear braking pressure required has decreased probably 50 %. Where I used to sometimes lock up the rear wheel slightly it now just stops or slows down more quickly with out the rear locking up. I have previously practiced many emergency full speed stops and tried again with the new setup and the bike now stops in significantly less distance, something close to 20% faster on the same drills, in the same parking lot, so I now how much quicker it is actually stopping.
Over all it is a great modification.
Thanks for all your help and input in my Darkside Transformation.
Where did you find the Austone and is that the correct size? 175SR16 I can not find anything like that
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Re:I have gone to the Darkside... 1 Year ago
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I have tricky air I had to tweak the sub frame but it doesn't rub. It only rubbed on big bumps or dips before the tweaking.
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Re:I have gone to the Darkside... 1 Year ago
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What is the Darkside?
Yes I agree on all of this, and thanks for posting your tire pressures, I was tunning the same set up and no one posted them on the DS forum. We need our own thread here for Darkside.
If anyone has any inclination to go Darkside this is the best set up so far, The Austone is a GREAT tire and besides the gobs of extra traction, no one who would ride a bike with this set up would know the difference from any MC tire.
TReynolds wrote:
Pirelli RT66 150/80/16 rear tire on Front at 40 psi
Austone tire 175SR16 on rear at 38 psi
No modifications for fitment
Hand mounted both tires and installed myself (Cast Wheels). Front tire seated at 45 psi, Rear tire seated at 50 psi.
Thanks to SmokinJoe and all his help and input in my research.
I got both tires mounted this weekend. I still think it is a miracle that the Pirelli fits, it is huge and looks fantastic! Took the bike out and I love the way it rides. I am currently at 38 psi in the rear and 40 psi in the front. After a little ride time (~100 Miles), I took it out on the highway and slowly worked the bike up to 90 mph to see if any wobbles deveioped and it was perfect all the way up, solid as a rock! I am using Ride-On in both tires (12 oz in front, 16 oz in rear) so I don't know if that helped or not. I took the bike into the hills and it corners even better than before and feels extremly hooked up in the corners not to mention how the back end really feels smooth when I do hit a bump.
The only two things that is notably different is that 1) the front tire does want to upright the bike more quickly at medium high speed turns (gyroscopic effect) and you can feel the steering become slightly more solid because of the extra amount of weight and size of that big thing spinning up front, not a bad thing just different. 2) Another thing is that the rear braking pressure required has decreased probably 50 %. Where I used to sometimes lock up the rear wheel slightly it now just stops or slows down more quickly with out the rear locking up. I have previously practiced many emergency full speed stops and tried again with the new setup and the bike now stops in significantly less distance, something close to 20% faster on the same drills, in the same parking lot, so I now how much quicker it is actually stopping.
Over all it is a great modification.
Thanks for all your help and input in my Darkside Transformation.
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Re:I have gone to the Darkside... 1 Year ago
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Makcap wrote:
I have tricky air I had to tweak the sub frame but it doesn't rub. It only rubbed on big bumps or dips before the tweaking.
Exactly what did you tweak
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Re:I have gone to the Darkside... 1 Year ago
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TReynolds wrote:
Rev. wrote:
Where did you find the Austone and is that the correct size? 175SR16 I can not find anything like that
Yes, that is the size. I bought it at Universal Tire https://www.universaltire.com/dunlop-tires/dunlop-radial-tires/175r16-austone-taxi-black.html. Hope this helps
Thanks I am going to for it, I believe I read somewhere that it would work with the flip and grind done. Its going to be nice get more mileage out of rear tire.
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