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Re:Jerry Sandusky CONVICTED ON 45 Counts 11 Months ago  
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I have not followed this case at all. I hope, since he was found guilty, that he truly was guilty. But I do not have much faith in our judicial system when it comes to sensational sex abuse cases. I owned a preschool during the McMartin Preschool witch hunt and followed that case closely. Witness coaching and trial by media. Prosecutors, attorneys, psychologists trying to become famous on the coat tails of children sicken me. Many people were ruined during this travesty of justice. Death threats were common and everyone KNEW they were guilty during this 7 year ordeal.

I don't know if he was guilty or not. It is not my call and really none of us can truly make the call.


Do a little research... you'll change your mind real quick. There were eyewitnesses who saw him do the unthinkable.
 
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Re:Jerry Sandusky CONVICTED ON 45 Counts 11 Months ago  
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Do a little research... you'll change your mind real quick. There were eyewitnesses who saw him do the unthinkable.


Unless you were the eyewitness, you are still only believing the statements of someone else. I am not arguing his innocence, just making an observation.
 
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Re:Jerry Sandusky CONVICTED ON 45 Counts 11 Months ago  
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BigBoi wrote:

Do a little research... you'll change your mind real quick. There were eyewitnesses who saw him do the unthinkable.


Unless you were the eyewitness, you are still only believing the statements of someone else. I am not arguing his innocence, just making an observation.


I didn't witness what Hitler or Mussolini did either but I'm sure they were guilty as sin.
 
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Re:Jerry Sandusky CONVICTED ON 45 Counts 11 Months ago  
Sandusky was on trial, not Paterno. There are people who I've known for years -- worked beside, attended events with them, been to their houses, been around their families -- and there have still been things that I did not know about them until they had a brush with the law.

Paterno is not guilty just because he was the man's boss. If it were the norm, there would be many supervisors and administrators and CEOs in jail for the crimes of their underlings.

The evidence seemed to be overwhelming against Sandusky and appeared to be much more than one or many person's words against the defendant. Sandusky even admitted to putting himself in the scenarios of which he was accused. Being there with the alleged victim is more than half of the case. Hopefully, justice was served well.
 
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Re:Jerry Sandusky CONVICTED ON 45 Counts 11 Months ago  
Being from central PA, I am just glad it is one step closer to leaving our conversations, and off my TV.
 
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Re:Jerry Sandusky CONVICTED ON 45 Counts 11 Months ago  
I have ZERO tolerance for such things and the people who commit them. In my world when convicted as Sandusky was, there is no reason to put him in jail and allow him cost you and I, the taxpayers MILLIONS! Put him in a room alone with a gun and single bullet. Give him 10 minutes to do the right thing.
 
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Re:Jerry Sandusky CONVICTED ON 45 Counts 11 Months ago  
All I can say is he better hold on to that bar of soap real tight!
 
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Re:Jerry Sandusky CONVICTED ON 45 Counts 11 Months ago  
fireman922 wrote:
I have not followed this case at all. I hope, since he was found guilty, that he truly was guilty. But I do not have much faith in our judicial system when it comes to sensational sex abuse cases. I owned a preschool during the McMartin Preschool witch hunt and followed that case closely. Witness coaching and trial by media. Prosecutors, attorneys, psychologists trying to become famous on the coat tails of children sicken me. Many people were ruined during this travesty of justice. Death threats were common and everyone KNEW they were guilty during this 7 year ordeal.

I don't know if he was guilty or not. It is not my call and really none of us can truly make the call.



The jury found him guilty, he was tried and convicted, so, he was guilty. The evidence against him was overwhelming. There were real victims that came forward for this to happen. I am certain that during the 15 years of alleged and convicted for crimes there were countless more. Hence the term serial pedophile.

I know a young man was molested when he was three by a babysitters boyfriend. Police lost evidence in that case and the guy went free. 18 years later the parents asked if I knew how to find him. I searched using my PACER account and found him in a Kentucky State Prison serving a life sentence for the rape and murder of a 4 year old girl.

Like Scumdusky, that guy had multiple victims spanning more than a decade. , I am glad to have him removed from society.
 
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Re:Jerry Sandusky CONVICTED ON 45 Counts 11 Months ago  
Quote from definition of "Guilt" (Wikipedia):

"The determination that one has committed that violation is made by an external body (a “court of law”) and is, therefore, as definitive as the record-keeping of the body. So the most basic definition is fundamentally circular: a person is guilty of violating a law, if a court says so."

I'm glad all of you have such blind faith in our judicial system. I hope you have the same faith if you are ever accused of something you didn't do.

Trust the government. They are always right.
 
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Re:Jerry Sandusky CONVICTED ON 45 Counts 11 Months ago  
Fireman it was not the 'court' that found him guilty, but citizens, a jury of the defendants peers that determined his guilt based on the evidence presented to them in a court of law, they did their civic duty as members of our society. We live in a society based on laws, and that's a good thing. He got his day(s) in court and did not even take the stand in his own defense. He lost.

I don't particularly trust my 'government' and have been very public in speaking out against a great many things our government tries to do, and/or does (just because it's law doesn't make it right) - but I do trust in the society I live in, as bound by the laws we have determined to be enforceable for the protection of members our society from perpetrators of such heinous crimes.

The victims in this case I recognize as victims. I do not recognize not the perpetrator, who has been found guilty, as a victim of anything but his own actions. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. One's power in society is no excuse. No man is above the law. We as a society have great responsibility to our children and those who are unable to protect themselves from such beings.

All men are sinners, and societies the world over have built penitentiaries for some of the worst. The word penitentiary comes from the latin word penitentiarus where one would pay penitence for his sins ... so, a penitentiary is a place where one is sent to regret --- penitent adj - feeling or expressing humble or regretful pain or sorrow for sins or offenses.

All seems in order to me
 
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