Now my feelings are hurt. I love my venture as my touring bike. Sure harley has a CD but everyone is using MP3 or IPODs anyway like I do. I have a CD changer. To me fuel injection is not a biggie. Since harley went to fuel injection they no longer sound like harleys. My carb road* sounds more like a harley than a new harley does. When I looked at touring bikes, I looked at Goldwing, and Electra glide Ultra classic. No offense, the gold wing is a fine bike but looks like a plastic scooter to me. I also would have had to shell out 3000+ more to own one. To have an ultra classic, which I loved the looks of, would have been 10,000 more. Besides neither of the others has a 5 year unlimited milage guarantee. I'll spend the extra money on accessories.