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relocating battery 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
any sparky's out there...?

wanting to move the battery and will need to extend the pos and neg wires...on a xvs650. are there any issues with longer wires, probably twice what they are now.

could this cause a drain or loss of amps to the electrical system....?
 
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Re:relocating battery 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
In theory, yes you'll lose some current using longer wires IF you use the same gauge wire.
Since we're only talking about a couple feet vs. a few feet I doubt you'll see any real difference.
Use one size larger gauge wire and you'll pretty much negate any possible slight current loss assuming everything else is the same.
 
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Re:relocating battery 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
I agree. Up the size and you wont notice it at all.
 
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Re:relocating battery 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
With DC electricity you can go up to 20 feet before an impedance correction would be necessary.

Don't worry about relocating that battery. It is done all of the time.
 
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Re:relocating battery 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
Could you keep your project all on one thread so we do not have to hop all around trying to follow it? Thanks.

Masterhermit........need to change that name.


BOBBER PROJECT
RELOCATING BATTERY
FORK TINS

I would just stick with Bobber Project and then more members can easily follow it.
 
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Re:relocating battery 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
One other little scientific tidbit:
Electrons do not travel through wire, they actually travel along the surface of the conductor(s).

That's why solid wire doesn't make as good a battery cable as stranded wire, one big fat chunk of metal actually carries less current than a gazillion little wires bundled together (assuming the total mass & type of metal is the same). Solid wire also doesn't like to be moved - at all. That's why we use that stuff in walls, not on motor vehicles.

The problem with fine strands is that it wouldn't physically stand up to the heat & vibration that vehicle battery cables are subjected to.

Buy real-live-battery-cable wire and you'll be using the best wire designed specifically for the job of feeding a little current most of the time with short bursts of shoveling through a lot of current. Get creative with different types of wire and you could have a fire real quick.
 
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Re:relocating battery 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
BubbaKahuna wrote:
One other little scientific tidbit:
Electrons do not travel through wire, they actually travel along the surface of the conductor(s).



AC current experiences the Skin Effect

DC travels through the bulk of the conductor, unless you are dealing with high-frequency DC.
 
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Re:relocating battery 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
MidwestMike wrote:
BubbaKahuna wrote:
One other little scientific tidbit:
Electrons do not travel through wire, they actually travel along the surface of the conductor(s).



AC current experiences the Skin Effect

DC travels through the bulk of the conductor, unless you are dealing with high-frequency DC.


Cool, I didn't know that.
Where does regulated DC of the average vehicle fall into the frequency range?
 
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Re:relocating battery 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
BubbaKahuna wrote:
MidwestMike wrote:
BubbaKahuna wrote:
One other little scientific tidbit:
Electrons do not travel through wire, they actually travel along the surface of the conductor(s).



AC current experiences the Skin Effect

DC travels through the bulk of the conductor, unless you are dealing with high-frequency DC.


Cool, I didn't know that.
Where does regulated DC of the average vehicle fall into the frequency range?


As for the starter, coming off the battery, there is not any frequency, it's flat.

As for what the alternator produces, that varies with the RPM. (Every hear a bad alternator through an old radio? The sound goes up and down with the motor.)

As for what comes out of the alternator, that depends on filtering. Capacitors flatten out the waves, and the battery also has an impact.
 
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Re:relocating battery 2 Years, 2 Months ago  
Point of order!
DC is 0 Hertz!
Anything after that has frequency (Pulsed DC and AC)
Only AC crosses the Zero line from Pos to Neg
 
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