Drill the Stock Exhaust (stage 1, 2, 3)

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Written by Fatbike   
Friday, 11 June 2004

Reprinted by Permission from FatBike

The Stages of Pipe Drilling

Drilling the stock pipes is the most popular modification among ‘Star owners.  The stock pipes are very restrictive and quiet, primarily in order to meet the strict guidelines in some of the states that the bikes are sold.  Of course, we all want sound and performance.  Aside from investing several hundred dollars in a quality set of aftermarket pipes, this is the most effective way to get there.  “Staging” will also allow you the flexibility to tune the sound to your liking.

Below are the stages and how they are done:


Stage 1

Introduction

Stage 1 involves removing the cone from the back of the muffler, or “slip-on” portion of the exhaust system.  This exposes the plate that holds the final exhaust tube in place.  holes in this plate frees up the system and significantly changes the tone and volume. This is the idea behind Stage 1.

It is best to perform the following procedures with the muffler set removed from the header pipe and taken off of the bike.

1. Use a ‘Dremmel’ type tool to cut the weld that holds the tailpipe cone to the exhaust pipe.  This will completely free the cone.  The cone can now be removed from the muffler.  This can be tricky.  If you like, tap a sheet metal screw into the surface of the cone, which gives you a grab point.  Once removed, the cone is useless, so looks aren’t important, however you will want to minimize the damage to the center pipe, because with stages 1 & 2 the pipe remains where it is.
2. Once the cone is removed, use a punch to mark where your holes will go.  Start at 12:00/3:00/6:00/9:00 and drill ½” holes.
3. Reinstall the mufflers and start the bike.  If you are happy, you are done.  Most will probably want to drill additional holes at the mid-point between the holes you just drilled, giving you a total of 8 holes in the baffle plate.  This tends to reduce the “fluffing” sound that only 4 holes will give you./user/Drill_ustration.jpg

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Stage 2

Introduction

Stage 2, as this is generally referred to, is the process of drilling “blindly” into the lower baffle plate.  This is accomplished using a long drill bit and drilling through the holes that you drilled in the first baffle plate and into the second baffle plate.  The effect is a slightly louder exhaust.

Again, it is recommended that you remove the mufflers from the head pipe, and take them off the bike.

1. Using an 18” long drill bit, enter the holes that you drilled for Stage 1.  Find the second baffle plate and drill random holes in the plate.

*Note... The effect that stage 2 has is minimal.  Generally speaking, if Stage 1 has grown old, or if it does not provide the desired sound, you should skip Stage 2 and go to the Stage 3 modification.

Stage 3

Introduction

The Stage 3 modification seems to be the most popular.  In fact I have done 3 sets of Stage 3 pipes without ever stopping at Stage 1 or 2.  The process essentially defeats the 1st and 2nd baffle chambers and uses only reduction and re-direction as the means of baffling the sound.  The modification is reasonably simple and once Stage 1 is complete, you’re half way there!

1. Using a 1” hole saw, drill out the first baffle plate in an overlapping fashion, essentially eliminating the baffle plate entirely.  You will leave jagged edges, and a center pipe that is no longer supported.
2. Using a hammer and chisel (or comparable tool) push the jagged edges that are attached to the center pipe back out of the way.
3. Using the same method, push the jagged edges back that are around the outside edge (attached to the inside wall of the exhaust) of the muffler.  You can also grind or cut them off, although this is time consuming and the net effect is the same.
4. Insert something sturdy into the center pipe.  Whatever it is, it should fit inside the pipe tightly, and give you a firm area to grip.  You will then twist and turn the center pipe, using as much force as possible, until you feel the weld in the bottom of the pipe give way.  Continue working the pipe until it comes completely out of the muffler.
5. All that is left is to clean up the inside of the pipe by working with the leftover edges and using some flat black spray paint.

It is strongly recommended that you re-jet the carburetor at Stage 3.  A Dyno-Jet kit using a 165 to 170 main should be sufficient.  You do not want to run too lean and because the stock setup tends to run lean already, allowing exhaust to exit easier tends to exaggerate the condition.

The end result will be a better running, better sounding bike, no matter which stage you choose.

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  Comments (10)
will 2007 stock exhaust fit 2007 1700 ro
Written by Josefsalvatore, on 01-15-2012 07:53
Please can someone tell me will stock exhaust from 2007 1700roadstar fit a 2004 1700 roadstar?? Please help.. Thanks Sam..
Written by schndava, on 12-02-2011 11:40
Bought a set of these off Craigs List ($100) from a guy who modified to Stage 3 but then got a deal on some Vance and Hines pipes. Put them on my 2003 Midnight Star 1600 and was very satisfied with the sound and volume. I did not have any performance issues or backfire. I have had these on for about 6 months now have riden about 5K miles.
New pipes
Written by harley, on 11-04-2011 10:39
I want to change the stock pipes on my 2009 1700 road star nothing to loud but some volume. The shop tells me the bassni road rage is the way to go not to sure if I like the looks of a 2 in to 1. 
 
Any thoughts or pipes you use the most,new to the road star 
 
Thanks Rick
stage 1
Written by roadstarbone, on 09-28-2011 14:11
can this be done to an '09 rs without adjusting the fuel injection system? ie, will it run to lean?
Absolutely Amazed...
Written by Tattooedmick, on 07-17-2011 20:16
At how good the exhaust sounds with the stage 3 mod. Was planning on dials because the stock exhaust was just miserable, it sounds so good now I can put off the pipes and prioritize the front end work. Thanks so much for the tip!
Stage One Exhaust
Written by 2MillerTime, on 05-28-2011 12:09
I just did the stage one mod to the exhaust on my 2000 R*. I removed the cones and drilled eight 1/2" holes per pipe. The sound that I get now is AWESOME! It's not too quiet and it's not too loud... PERFECT! It only took about an hour. Thanks for the great instuctions
Stupid Question?? Cone
Written by Roadie1700, on 04-07-2011 20:49
I haven't gone and looked at the pipes yet but I am assuming you do the stage one to both of the pipes??? and the cone is the little metal ring in the CENTER with a small weld on the top of it??? any help is appreciated...
Stratoliner Suspension !
Written by rmccain99, on 02-27-2011 19:11
I have a road house slip on which works fine for me . This means I don't need a power commander to make my already powerful bike louder . What a Strat really needs is Progressive Front springs, Progressive rearshock and a six speed transmission . That would make this bike what it should be out of the box. This will releive arm jarring, ejection seating, gear hunting on backroads and gas stop worry . Last but not least I am a retired mechanic and I have seen my share of why do engineers get paid so much fucking money for doing dumb ass shit . I am fully qualifide to make these staments . Their is a revolution going on and it is time for us to be heard . :(
New Exhaust on my 2008 roadstar
Written by vollano, on 02-20-2011 11:29
Just got my power commander III installed on my bike. Really a simple plug and play system. However, the tank removal was a bit of a hassel. Didn't remove it toatlly, just the bolt in the back and removed two fuel hoses so that I can shift the tank forward to get to the stock Trottle position sensor. Stock pipes came right off once I removed the two bolts on the right footpedal. Now waiting for my new pipes to get here monday by ups. Bought Roadburner stepped drag pro which are 16 gages steel, 3 inch pipes. No heat shields as they are so thick. You shows these pipes as really deep tone and great performance. I set my power commander map at 431-007 code for K&N Airfilter and 3 inch pipes. Also, unplugged 0-2 sensor and blocked off the AIS (Air Induction System). Havn't fired the bike up yet, but should be ready when pipes get here and installed. Ride save folks.
what about back pressure
Written by questor, on 08-29-2010 01:16
I know it's probably and old question . . . 
But isn't back pressure important to the valves?? 
could they burn out is there anything I should do along with the drill out ????

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